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Qwen3-Omni-Flash-2025-12-01：a next-generation native multimodal large model

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314 points pretext | 1 comments | 10 Dec 25 16:13 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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dvh ◴[10 Dec 25 16:45 UTC] No.46219993[source]▶
I asked: "How many resistors are used in fuzzhugger phantom octave guitar pedal?". It replied 29 resistors and provided a long list. Answer is 2 resistors: https://tagboardeffects.blogspot.com/2013/04/fuzzhugger-phan...
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esafak ◴[10 Dec 25 16:56 UTC] No.46220132[source]▶
This is just trivia. I would not use it to test computers -- or humans.
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parineum ◴[10 Dec 25 17:09 UTC] No.46220344[source]▶
Everything is just trivia until you have a use for the answer.

OP provided a we link with the answer, aren't these models supposed to be trained on all of that data?

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esafak ◴[10 Dec 25 17:16 UTC] No.46220437[source]▶
There is nothing useful you can do with this information. You might as well memorize the phone book.

The model has a certain capacity -- quite limited in this case -- so there is an opportunity cost in learning one thing over another. That's why it is important to train on quality data; things you can build on top of.

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parineum ◴[11 Dec 25 02:14 UTC] No.46226858[source]▶
What if you are trying to fix one of these things and needed a list of replacement parts?
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1. esafak ◴[11 Dec 25 02:28 UTC] No.46226936{3}[source]▶
Not the right problem for this model. Any RAG-backed SLM would do; the important part is being backed by a search engine, like https://google.com/ai