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Stop Breaking TLS

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Wowfunhappy ◴[] No.46216031[source]
I work for a school. My traffic is not MITM'd, but the kids' traffic is, because we don't want them using their school-issued laptops to play games or go shopping, and you can't adequately block stuff if it's all encrypted.
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lousken ◴[] No.46216679[source]
Whitelists instead of blacklists?
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Wowfunhappy ◴[] No.46216808[source]
I'm pretty sure we'd still need to break TLS. Domain-level just isn't granular enough.
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1. lousken ◴[] No.46225506[source]
I still find that dumb that you even need to do that. Machines especially for schools should be able to have software policies set directly on them to limit such sites.

I don't know how much chromeOS is configurable and if you can e.g. force it to only use specific network and network interface, or if a student can connect it to a different network somehow, because it would be kinda pointless otherwise.

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2. Wowfunhappy ◴[] No.46225739[source]
The school-issued laptops are all Macbooks. To be clear I'm not in the IT department so I don't know exactly what the setup is, but I see my students using their computers.

A VPN is involved, which is what made me assume they are doing TLS shenanigans—I guess I could theoretically be wrong, but it's definitely more granular than domain-level blocking, so I don't know how else it could work. The computers connect to this VPN automatically on startup. In the moments before the VPN connects, the internet does not work.

> Machines especially for schools should be able to have software policies set directly on them to limit such sites.

It's a good point—if you just did this client-side instead of on the network level, you wouldn't have to deal with TLS or anything. It seems clear to me that they aren't doing that (given the VPN) and it's not immediately obvious to me why.