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351 points iamnothere | 2 comments | | HN request time: 0.466s | source

Also: We built a resource hub to fight back against age verification https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12/age-verification-comin...
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rlpb ◴[] No.46224574[source]
I'd be OK with an "I am a child" header mandated by law to be respected by service providers (eg. "adult sites" must not permit a client setting the header to proceed). On the client side, mandate that consumer devices that might reasonably be expected to be used by children (every smartphone, tablet, smart TV, etc) have parental controls that set the header. Leave it to parents to set the controls. Perhaps even hold parents culpable for not doing so, as a minimum supervision requirement, just as one may hold parents culpable for neglecting their children in other ways.

Forcing providers to divine the age of the user, or requiring an adult's identity to verify that they are not a child, is backwards, for all the reasons pointed out. But that's not the only way to "protect the children". Relying on a very minimal level of parental supervision of device use should be fine; we already expect far more than that in non-technology areas.

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bena ◴[] No.46225048[source]
I am a Russian proxy site, I make requests for you without the header. I serve you the content because I don't care about following American laws.

Alternatively, just use an older browser that doesn't serve the header.

If anything, you'd want the reverse. A header that serves as a disclaimer saying "I'm an adult, you can serve me anything" and then the host would only serve if the browser sends that header. And you'd have to turn it on through the settings/parental controls.

Now, this doesn't handle the proxy situation. You could still have a proxy site that served the request with the header for you, but there's not much you can do about that regardless.

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1. rlpb ◴[] No.46225354[source]
> I am a Russian proxy site, I make requests for you without the header. I serve you the content because I don't care about following American laws.

That's no different to a law mandating identification-based age verification though. A site in a different jurisdiction can ignore that just the same.

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2. bena ◴[] No.46232037[source]
Right. This isn't something we can completely solve with legislation or technology.