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1. youngNed ◴[] No.46224825[source]
But.... and this is important, it's not funny.

"Here is a thing that makes a slight difference, with no cost, to a small percentage of people"

"Nah, woke. Let's make it worse for them."

There is nothing funny about performative cruelty

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2. lowbloodsugar ◴[] No.46224894[source]
Anyone who is laughing is a sucker and an idiot. You keep thinking this administration is incompetent, when in fact they are achieving all their goals. At this point anyone saying they are laughable should be assumed to be part of the propaganda. Ho ho ho, looks at the silly Nazis with their silly swastika.
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3. ebbi ◴[] No.46224906[source]
what
4. xanderlewis ◴[] No.46224911[source]
With no cost?
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5. the_gastropod ◴[] No.46224921{3}[source]
Let's even say (incorrectly, probably) that the switch to Calibri was "performative" or "virtue signaling". That's, in my opinion, significantly less terrible than performative cruelty or anti-virtue signaling.
6. websiteapi ◴[] No.46224930[source]
I'll never understand this silly take. they just took a venezuelan oil tanker. is that a joke to you? you might disagree with what they're doing, or argue they are incompetent, but joke is very strange take. they are very serious. ask some undocumented immigrants in the USA about how much they're joking.

in fact - any country seeing what trump is doing both domestically and internationally and not taking their actions potentially against them seriously is stupid imho.

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7. AshleyGrant ◴[] No.46224945{3}[source]
If you had read the article, you would know the answer to this question.

Calibri is a font designed to be easier to read on screens, which is where documents are primarily read in 2025. Switching to using Calibri as the default was a meaningful change that provided improved accessibility at literally no cost to anyone.

Switching back to Times New Roman, a serif font that is provably more difficult to read on screens is yet another act of performative cruelty by this administration who seemingly operates with "the cruelty is the point" as one of its core tenets.

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8. fnordprefect ◴[] No.46224946[source]
I'm with John Gruber, who is hardly a fan of this administration:

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/12/10/state-departmen...

"Calibri does convey a sense of casualness — and more so, modernity — that is not appropriate for the U.S. State Department. And I do not buy the argument that Calibri is somehow more accessible for those with low vision or reading disabilities. People with actual accessibility needs should be catered to, but they need more than a sans serif typeface, and their needs should not primarily motivate the choice for the default typeface."

Official departmental paperwork shouldn't look clownish.

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9. ebbi ◴[] No.46224971[source]
I'm laughing at their sheer incompetence. This is coming from a minority who has been targeted by US governments policies and has lost friends because of this.

Yes, the US government is a laughing stock while we have sympathy for those negatively impacted by the decisions made by these incompetent idiots.

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10. bena ◴[] No.46224978{3}[source]
This is a performative change.

The change to Calibri was meaningful.

Because Calibri is an easier to read font on screens, which is where a lot more reading is being done.

Since it was done as an accessibility measure, it is seen as something for "inclusion" which is part of the scary "DEI" (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion). So it had to go, because forbid we do something that makes things slightly easier for people.

11. websiteapi ◴[] No.46224983{3}[source]
you and I have very different definitions of joke it seems.
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12. youngNed ◴[] No.46224998{3}[source]
Performative? The one that you read about. The one that had a press release, the one that had articles on social media that you are commenting on.

Meaningful? The one that looked into which font was more readable, for the most people

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13. bravoetch ◴[] No.46225028[source]
I think by 'joke' people mean "their actions are unreasonable to the point of ridicule, and were they less consequential would be akin to the performance of a circus clown instead of a diligent policy maker."

But the rest of us just shorten that to "joke".

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14. ebbi ◴[] No.46225029{3}[source]
The same John Gruber that, quote tweeting a news article about Israel closing off phone and internet services to Gazans, wrote "Fuck around and find out"
15. ebbi ◴[] No.46225047{4}[source]
I think you just need to read more. Your comprehension of common terms in context is lacking.
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16. cluckindan ◴[] No.46225049[source]
Obviously they would take a Venezuelan oil tanker. Oil is the only reason Trump is interested in Venezuela.

https://intelpoint.co/insights/venezuela-saudi-arabia-and-ir...

17. ebbi ◴[] No.46225093{3}[source]
Thank you - exactly what I meant. I thought it was a common understanding when used in this context.
18. groundzeros2015 ◴[] No.46225194{4}[source]
Is screen readability the only value to consider?

> If you had read the article

Please read the rules.

19. groundzeros2015 ◴[] No.46225213{4}[source]
Do you have trouble reading Times New Roman? Every computer I used growing up used it in much lower resolution.
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20. youngNed ◴[] No.46225223{3}[source]
> they need more than a sans serif typeface,

Agreed.

So... why are the administration going in the opposite direction?

> Official departmental paperwork shouldn't look clownish.

Oh. It's about looking clownish. Right. OK. Pull up a chair, this might take a while, and we will get to typefaces pretty late on, I'll be honest

21. websiteapi ◴[] No.46225265{3}[source]
So it’s a partisan word then and basically devoid of meaning and consistency across political lines. When hasn’t the us political class been a joke by such a definition…? Perhaps when we owned slaves, or interned the Japanese?
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22. roughly ◴[] No.46225318{3}[source]
> And I do not buy the argument that Calibri is somehow more accessible for those with low vision or reading disabilities

Oh well that settles it, John Gruber doesn’t buy the argument. Wrap it up and let’s head home, folks, this one’s settled, no need to refer to any actual research or evidence.

23. roughly ◴[] No.46225331{5}[source]
No, but I’m also not an accessibility expert, so my opinion here’s pretty irrelevant.
24. youngNed ◴[] No.46225387{3}[source]
I hadn't planned on spending my evening googling the pay grade of government officials, calculating the time taken to change a font on Microsoft Word and extrapolating that over a year.

But I'm game if you are?

Jupyter notebooks or excel?

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26. xanderlewis ◴[] No.46231350{4}[source]
I'm not talking about monetary cost.