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In New York City, congestion pricing leads to marked drop in pollution

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472 points Brajeshwar | 2 comments | 10 Dec 25 15:25 UTC | HN request time: 0.637s | source
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ahmeneeroe-v2 ◴[10 Dec 25 16:27 UTC] No.46219738[source]▶
How does NYC congestion pricing deal with disparate impacts? Real question, I don't live near NYC
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ceejayoz ◴[10 Dec 25 16:31 UTC] No.46219797[source]▶
https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-03612

> Some drivers can apply for Low-Income Discount or Low-Income Tax Credit for Residents.

> A 50% discount is available for low-income vehicle owners enrolled in the Low-Income Discount Plan (LIDP). This discount begins after the first 10 trips in a calendar month and applies to all peak period trips after that for the remainder of the calendar month.

The revenue also goes towards public transit, and the congestion charge applies mainly to the wealthiest part of the wealthiest borough.

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rangestransform ◴[10 Dec 25 17:57 UTC] No.46221017[source]▶
I hate this distinctly American idea that no policy can cause any detriment to any disadvantaged people at all, even if the policy effects are incredibly income-progressive overall. This is how we end up with carveouts for every special interest group in every single policy, the populace justifying turnstile hopping, lack of traffic enforcement by police, opposition to speed and red light cameras, opposition to rezoning unless it's built by free-range grass-fed vegan union labour and 100% below market, etc.
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1. ceejayoz ◴[10 Dec 25 18:04 UTC] No.46221128[source]▶
I mean, if we're gonna pick a group to impact, the ones who aren't already deeply struggling seem like the place to do it. Given the parent poster's commenting history here, though, I don't think they have a genuine concern in "disparate impact" at all.
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2. ahmeneeroe-v2 ◴[10 Dec 25 18:13 UTC] No.46221236[source]▶
Hey CJ! No I don't have a genuine concern at all. But it was a real question and thank you very much for answering it with a real answer.

FWIW, I like that there is a carveout for economically disadvantaged folks. Either way doesn't affect me since I'm not a NYer.