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In New York City, congestion pricing leads to marked drop in pollution

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473 points Brajeshwar | 3 comments | 10 Dec 25 15:25 UTC | HN request time: 0.622s | source
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lkbm ◴[10 Dec 25 15:34 UTC] No.46218856[source]▶
> Particulates issued from tailpipes can aggravate asthma and heart disease and increase the risk of lung cancer and heart attack. Globally, they are a leading risk factor for premature death.

Minor nitpick, but tailpipes aren't the primary source of emissions. The study is about PM2.5[0]. which will chiefly be tires and brake pads. Modern gasoline engines are relatively clean, outside of CO2, though diesel engines spit out a bunch of bad stuff.

[0] https://www.nature.com/articles/s44407-025-00037-2

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throwawaypath ◴[10 Dec 25 15:39 UTC] No.46218933[source]▶
How do EVs fare in this regard? Brakes are used significantly less, but the additional weight from the batteries chews through tires faster.
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jgeada ◴[10 Dec 25 15:43 UTC] No.46219005[source]▶
Why does everyone immediately pivot to EVs on this subject, instead of (looks around) gargantuan SUVs and trucks everywhere, due to peculiarities of US policies regulating SUVs more leniently than cars on fuel efficiency?
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SoftTalker ◴[10 Dec 25 16:55 UTC] No.46220111[source]▶
Consumers like SUVs. They are convenient, easy to get in and out of, flexible for hauling large items, many can pull trailers, offer good visibility for the driver, and do well in the snow.
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1. doug_durham ◴[10 Dec 25 17:33 UTC] No.46220670[source]▶
They are also heavily subsidized by the US government in the form of relaxed regulations. The profit margins are higher which is why car companies push them. In their current ICE form they also benefit from massive government subsidies of the Oil companies. If you took those away it is unlikely that the convenience would be worth the additional cost.
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2. potato3732842 ◴[11 Dec 25 14:22 UTC] No.46231730[source]▶
>They are also heavily subsidized by the US government in the form of relaxed regulations. The profit margins are higher which...

Look in the mirror, that's who's responsible for this.

You people levied regulations. You levied them in half baked ways that resulted in the demise of sedans and station wagons. And now you complain that SUVs are "subsidized". Get out of here with that nonsense and take your stupid regulations with you so the rest of us can have diversity of vehicle choice back.

None of this stuff is a subsidy, construing "exempt from the screwing some other product category gets" is just a lie.

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3. doug_durham ◴[11 Dec 25 18:36 UTC] No.46235162[source]▶
I take a less libertarian view on this. It because trucks and truck-like vehicles are under-regulated. The result being excess pollution and pedestrian fatalities. We need to remove the loop hole.