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Django: what’s new in 6.0

(adamj.eu)
379 points rbanffy | 2 comments | 09 Dec 25 20:33 UTC | HN request time: 0.399s | source
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teagee ◴[09 Dec 25 21:37 UTC] No.46211038[source]▶
Any code or blog written by Adam is worth spending some time on.

It will be interesting to see how the tasks framework develops and expands. I am sad to see the great Django-Q2 lumped in with the awful Celery though.

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hintoftime ◴[09 Dec 25 23:19 UTC] No.46212076[source]▶
Why is celery awful?
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tclancy ◴[10 Dec 25 01:08 UTC] No.46212860[source]▶
Because it’s a seducer. It does what you need to do and you two are happy together. So you shower more tasks on Celery and it becomes cold and non-responsive at random times.

And debugging is a pain in the ass. Most places I’ve been that have it, I’ve tried to sell them on adding Flower to give better insight and everyone thinks that’s a very good idea but there isn’t time because we need to debug these inscrutable Celery issues.

https://flower.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

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sgt ◴[10 Dec 25 15:07 UTC] No.46218501[source]▶
Although we could say the same thing about Kafka, couldn't we? It's made for much higher throughput and has usually other use cases, but it's also great until it's not great.
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1. freedomben ◴[10 Dec 25 15:56 UTC] No.46219239[source]▶
At least the last time I used Kafka (which was several years ago so things might have changed) it wasn't at all easy to get started. It was a downright asshole in fact. If you pursue a relationship with an asshole, you shouldn't be surprised when they become cold to you
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2. sgt ◴[10 Dec 25 19:31 UTC] No.46222425[source]▶
Yes, absolutely. It's still pretty much that way. Especially if you want to make changes to a running installation, add nodes etc.