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WWWWH ◴[] No.46184528[source]
Surely this is gross professional misconduct? If one of my postdocs did this they would be at risk of being fired. I would certainly never trust them again. If I let it get through, I should be at risk.

As a reviewer, if I see the authors lie in this way why should I trust anything else in the paper? The only ethical move is to reject immediately.

I acknowledge mistakes and so on are common but this is different league bad behaviour.

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stainablesteel ◴[] No.46186748[source]
this brings us to a cultural divide, westerners would see this as a personal scar, as they consider the integrity of the publishing sphere at large to be held up by the integrity of individuals

i clicked on 4 of those papers, and the pattern i saw was middle-eastern, indian, and chinese names

these are cultures where they think this kind of behavior is actually acceptable, they would assume it's the fault of the journal for accepting the paper. they don't see the loss of reputation to be a personal scar because they instead attribute blame to the game.

some people would say it's racist to understand this, but in my opinion when i was working with people from these cultures there was just no other way to learn to cooperate with them than to understand them, it's an incredibly confusing experience to be working with them until you understand the various differences between your own culture and theirs

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ribosometronome ◴[] No.46187026[source]
Where do you see the authors? All I'm seeing is:

>Anonymous authors

>Paper under double-blind review

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titanomachy ◴[] No.46187151[source]
Yeah WTF? Both authors and reviewers are hidden. Is this comment just an attempt to whip up racist fervor?
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nyc_data_geek1 ◴[] No.46188569[source]
Don't understand why you're being downvoted, here.
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Dylan16807 ◴[] No.46189293[source]
Because the second sentence is inflammatory.

The side comment is right, it's about low versus high trust societies. Even if GP made a mistake on which names are relevant, they're not being racist about it.

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titanomachy ◴[] No.46189990[source]
Yes, on looking more closely it’s possible that they made an honest mistake.
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nyc_data_geek1 ◴[] No.46213441[source]
In that case, the edit button exists. It seems rather late in the day to be erring on the side of the benefit of the doubt in every case, for things like this. Much of the population is unabashedly, vociferously, aggressively racist and proud of it, these days.
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1. Dylan16807 ◴[] No.46213631[source]
> In that case, the edit button exists. It seems rather late in the day to be erring on the side of the benefit of the doubt

The edit button exists for 2 hours and this is not a person that frequently comments.

> That's one opinion. Here's another - they were waiting with their commentary locked and loaded, and failed to even read the source material in any detail before unloading it.

Well almost a day later they replied "you can google the papers and find the arxiv articles where the authors are listed". Unless that is a blatant lie, it seems like a pretty good reason to think they're using good-faith and non-racist reasoning here.