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stock_toaster ◴[] No.46208576[source]
Wild idea... Maybe tax wealth instead of income?

Tax break on single home ownership, but significantly increased tax on multi-home-ownership?

It would be interesting to see comparisons between PE ownership in markets with property tax vs markets without.

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gjsman-1000 ◴[] No.46208673[source]
Wealth taxes don't work because wealth gets extremely fuzzy.

For example, unsold stock that I bought 15 years ago; and then got a loan against. I'm wealthy... kinda? But I didn't sell the stock; I have unrealized gains, and you shouldn't tax me beyond income tax on borrowed money? Okay, tax me on my unrealized gains then - but then 2008 repeats itself, stock goes down 40%, do I get a refund? Of course not, I only pay when stock goes up and never down, which is not exactly a fair incentive.

Now imagine artwork I bought 15 years ago from Banksy. Or imagine my video game collection I bought on eBay that contains some rare titles. Or what about my wine collection? Now imagine I'm Elon Musk, on paper worth $400B, but if I sold even 20% of my stock, that paper valuation would be shredded from an excess of liquidity driving the share price down, so you can't tax me on what is physically impossible to realize.

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orwin ◴[] No.46208788[source]
If the tax is set at say 2% of wealth (excluding primary home and _displayed_ artwork/collectibles), and that's above your income, just pay with your stocks at the valuation they have at tax day.
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gjsman-1000 ◴[] No.46208834{3}[source]
This assumes everything can be paid in liquid public equity, which is often not the case in any private or offshore investment. Additionally, the government now owns stock they can't realize without by definition causing a stock market decline. Sell stock that previously wasn't on the market, you exhibit permanent downward pressure.
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1. orwin ◴[] No.46209028{4}[source]
> private or offshore investment.

I don't have a good solution for private investment, but for offshore public investment, you can have the same principle.

> Sell stock that previously wasn't on the market, you exhibit permanent downward pressure.

Which is a very, very good thing, to be clear. Because it lowers expectations of future returns, and make stock valuations not based on "i predict pension funds will automatically put their contributor money into those stocks", but on actual business information.