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Bad Dye Job

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djmips ◴[] No.46191657[source]
I am starting to think John Gruber doesn't like Alan Dye.
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pupppet ◴[] No.46192248[source]
Where were Gruber’s posts about Dye so obviously being a problem before his exit?
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elicash ◴[] No.46192573[source]
Quickly googled his website and found this from January 2021:

> [...] I’m reminded of all the UI and interaction designs and changes in iOS and MacOS that are just bad. There’s a real sense that Apple’s current HI team, under Alan Dye, is a “design is what it looks like” group, not a “design is how it works” group.

And this, from June of this year:

> Re-watching Jobs’s introduction of Aqua for the umpteenth time, I still find it enthralling. I found Alan Dye’s introduction of Liquid Glass to be soporific, if not downright horseshitty.

He has been even more critical on his podcast. This has been a repeated refrain and increasing over the years. My first reaction, when I read the news, was "Apple bloggers and podcasters will be THRILLED."

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pupppet ◴[] No.46192904{3}[source]
He’s had the position for 10 years and you found two mentions?
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raldi ◴[] No.46193133{4}[source]
There are a lot more. Here’s another I found in under half a minute:

https://daringfireball.net/2025/08/macos_26_tahoes_dead_cana...

You seem to have already had your mind made up, though, and are maybe not actually interested in evidence.

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pupppet ◴[] No.46197164{5}[source]
He doesn't even mention his name in this article.

Let's all pretend he totally wasn't going out of his way to prevent burning bridges with his Apple connections but starts throwing Alan under the bus after he's gone like he was so obviously the problem at Apple.

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raldi ◴[] No.46197198{6}[source]
We don’t have to pretend; there’s ample evidence. Here’s one from 2020 that specifically calls Dye out: https://daringfireball.net/2021/01/my_2020_apple_report_card

You seem to have an axe to grind against Gruber, are immune to all evidence against your preconceived worldview, and are projecting this behavior onto the other side of the discussion.

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1. x0x0 ◴[] No.46197509{7}[source]
The same example shared upthread.

So two mentions in 5 years?