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keiferski ◴[] No.46192154[source]
The thing that bothers me the most about LLMs is how they never seem to understand "the flow" of an actual conversation between humans. When I ask a person something, I expect them to give me a short reply which includes another question/asks for details/clarification. A conversation is thus an ongoing "dance" where the questioner and answerer gradually arrive to the same shared meaning.

LLMs don't do this. Instead, every question is immediately responded to with extreme confidence with a paragraph or more of text. I know you can minimize this by configuring the settings on your account, but to me it just highlights how it's not operating in a way remotely similar to the human-human one I mentioned above. I constantly find myself saying, "No, I meant [concept] in this way, not that way," and then getting annoyed at the robot because it's masquerading as a human.

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jodrellblank ◴[] No.46192800[source]
> LMs don't do this. Instead, every question is immediately responded with extreme confidence with a paragraph or more of text.

Having just read a load of Quora answers like this, which did not cover the thing I was looking for, that is how humans on the internet behave and how people have to write books, blog posts, articles, documentation. Without the "dance" to choose a path through a topic on the fly, the author has to take the burden of providing all relevant context, choosing a path, explaining why, and guessing at any objections and questions and including those as well.

It's why "this could have been an email" is a bad shout. The summary could have been an email, but the bit which decided on that being the summary would be pages of guessing all the things which what might have been in the call and which ones to include or exclude.

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goalieca ◴[] No.46193463[source]
This is a recent phenomenon. It seems most of the pages today are SEO optimized LLM garbage with the aim of having you scroll past three pages of ads.

THe internet really used to be efficient and i could always find exactly what i wanted with an imprecise google search ~ 15 years ago.

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AznHisoka ◴[] No.46193540[source]
Don’t you get this today with AI Overviews summarizing everything on top of most Google results?
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i80and ◴[] No.46194358{4}[source]
The AI Overviews are... extremely bad. For most of my queries, Google's AI Overview misrepresents its own citations, or almost as bad, confidently asserts a falsehood or half-truth based on results that don't actually contain an answer to my search query.

I had the same issue with Kagi, where I'd follow the citation and it would say the opposite of the summary.

A human can make sense of search results with a little time and effort, but current AI models don't seem to be able to.

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1. wat10000 ◴[] No.46195899{5}[source]
Cheap AI models aren't good at this, anyway, and AI Overviews have to use cheap models since they get used so much. They would be a lot better (still need to check, but they'd be much less stupid) if they used something like GPT-5, but that's just not feasible right now.