←back to thread

I failed to recreate the 1996 Space Jam website with Claude

(j0nah.com)
549 points thecr0w | 1 comments | 07 Dec 25 17:18 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
Show context
thuttinger ◴[07 Dec 25 19:44 UTC] No.46184466[source]▶
Claude/LLMs in general are still pretty bad at the intricate details of layouts and visual things. There are a lot of problems that are easy to get right for a junior web dev but impossible for an LLM. On the other hand, I was able to write a C program that added gamma color profile support to linux compositors that don't support it (in my case Hyprland) within a few minutes! A - for me - seemingly hard task, which would have taken me at least a day or more if I didn't let Claude write the code. With one prompt Claude generated C code that compiled on first try that:

- Read an .icc file from disk

- parsed the file and extracted the VCGT (video card gamma table)

- wrote the VCGT to the video card for a specified display via amdgpu driver APIs

The only thing I had to fix was the ICC parsing, where it would parse header strings in the wrong byte-order (they are big-endian).

replies(3): >>46184840 #>>46185379 #>>46185476 #
jacquesm ◴[07 Dec 25 21:33 UTC] No.46185379[source]▶
Claude didn't write that code. Someone else did and Claude took that code without credit to the original author(s), adapted it to your use case and then presented it as its own creation to you and you accepted this. If a human did this we probably would have a word for them.
replies(16): >>46185404 #>>46185408 #>>46185442 #>>46185473 #>>46185478 #>>46185791 #>>46185885 #>>46185911 #>>46186086 #>>46186326 #>>46186420 #>>46186759 #>>46187004 #>>46187058 #>>46187235 #>>46188771 #
bsaul ◴[07 Dec 25 21:43 UTC] No.46185478[source]▶
That's an interesting hypothesis : that LLM are fundamentally unable to produce original code.

Do you have papers to back this up ? That was also my reaction when i saw some really crazy accurate comments on some vibe coded piece of code, but i couldn't prove it, and thinking about it now i think my intuition was wrong (ie : LLMs do produce original complex code).

replies(7): >>46185592 #>>46185822 #>>46186708 #>>46187030 #>>46187456 #>>46188840 #>>46191020 #
moron4hire ◴[08 Dec 25 01:58 UTC] No.46187456[source]▶
No, the thing needing proof is the novel idea: that LLMs can produce original code.
replies(3): >>46187777 #>>46188015 #>>46194023 #
handoflixue ◴[08 Dec 25 03:38 UTC] No.46188015[source]▶
What's your proof that the average college student can produce original code? I'm reasonably certain I can get an LLM to write something that will pass any test that the average college student can, as far as that goes.
replies(1): >>46194796 #
1. moron4hire ◴[08 Dec 25 17:07 UTC] No.46194796{3}[source]▶
I'm not asking about averages. I'm asking about any. There is no need to perform an academic research study to prove that humans are capable of writing original code because the existence of our conversation right now is the counter-example to disprove the negation.

Yes, it is true that a lot of humans remix existing code. But not all. It has yet to be proven that any LLM is doing something more than remixing code.

I would submit as evidence to this idea (LLMs are not capable of writing original code) the fact that not a single company using LLM-based AI coding has developed a novel product that has outpaced its competition. In any category. If AI really makes people "10x" more productive, then companies that adopted AI a year ago should be 10 years ahead of their competition. Substitute any value N > 1 you want and you won't see it. Indeed, given the stories we're seeing of the massive amounts of waste that is occurring within AI startups and companies adopting AI, it would suggest that N < 1.