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Bad Dye Job

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djmips ◴[] No.46191657[source]
I am starting to think John Gruber doesn't like Alan Dye.
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pupppet ◴[] No.46192248[source]
Where were Gruber’s posts about Dye so obviously being a problem before his exit?
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elicash ◴[] No.46192573[source]
Quickly googled his website and found this from January 2021:

> [...] I’m reminded of all the UI and interaction designs and changes in iOS and MacOS that are just bad. There’s a real sense that Apple’s current HI team, under Alan Dye, is a “design is what it looks like” group, not a “design is how it works” group.

And this, from June of this year:

> Re-watching Jobs’s introduction of Aqua for the umpteenth time, I still find it enthralling. I found Alan Dye’s introduction of Liquid Glass to be soporific, if not downright horseshitty.

He has been even more critical on his podcast. This has been a repeated refrain and increasing over the years. My first reaction, when I read the news, was "Apple bloggers and podcasters will be THRILLED."

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pupppet ◴[] No.46192904{3}[source]
He’s had the position for 10 years and you found two mentions?
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1. whynotminot ◴[] No.46193069{4}[source]
How many times would appease you?
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2. lateforwork ◴[] No.46193535[source]
At least 50% as harsh before his departure than he is afterwards.
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3. jtbayly ◴[] No.46194604[source]
All criticism of Apple’s UI would count, as Dye was in charge of it and ultimately responsible, whether he is named in the article or not.

And Gruber has been at least this harsh on the UI before.

4. elicash ◴[] No.46196174[source]
How about this sarcastic and brutal bit, on his podcast (end of July):

"But maybe instead of firing him, they start selling pizzas out of the back of Apple stores and Alan Dye can run that and do the graphic design on the boxes. Do the menus. I think Alan Dye could kill that with his Levi's experience, right?"

That's rougher than anything he has said post-firing, in my opinion.