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spicyusername ◴[] No.46181533[source]
I've never understood the initial arguments about Bitcoin, no matter how many times they've been explained to me.

The block chain is, and always was, an extremely inconvenient database. How anyone, especially many intelligent people, thought it was realistic to graft a currency on top of such a unwieldy piece of technology is beyond me. Maybe it goes to show how few people understand economics and anthropology and how dunning-krueger can happen to anyone.

Now the uninformed gambling on futuristic sounding hokum? THAT is easy to understand.

That being said, I'm sorry the author had to go through this experience, the road of life is often filled with unexpected twists and turns.

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kachapopopow ◴[] No.46181587[source]
well actually, you could build a network on top of that (expensive) database... hmm... it's kind of starting to sound like SWIFT.

but you have: no rollbacks, no refunds, no governance to stop bad actors you do gain: immunity from government decisions, theft by state and independence

as unpopular as it might sound like, bitcoin is great for criminals, yes you could say "who decides what is a criminal", well let's make this simple: people who murder and steal.

edit: by "murder and steal" I generally mean something that is "lawfully and/or morally disallowed"

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soulofmischief ◴[] No.46181699[source]
> let's make this simple: people who murder and steal.

So many Western governments and their elected officials? The US? Israel?

What about the people in international waters Trump keeps bombing and calling drug criminals? I'm so confused about how you're able to make the delineation of those who "murder and steal" to mean criminals, given that such a distinction puts the government square in the spotlight, and many of the people whom they spend relatively insane amount of resources to target target: drug users/pushers, political activists, immigrants, etc.

Distributed ledgers are good for... targeted activists, people who don't want the government to have the power to arbitrarily weaken their buying power, people seeking safe drugs and medicines, just about anyone needing to be anonymous, and regular people who don't need to justify their economic transactions or risk their wealth being diluted. This "criminals" angle is just farcical, ignorant, and also very tired... you're not the first to suggest it.

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kachapopopow ◴[] No.46181769[source]
you could call them criminals, many do, activists are also criminals from the view of politicans I generally just used "who murder and steal" as a basic notion of "it's good for people who are in trouble with the law"
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jenadine ◴[] No.46189179[source]
Legal and morally right are two different things though.
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baq ◴[] No.46189539[source]
Laws at least have the advantage of being written down. Morals are different for everyone and not constant in time even in a single individual.
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1. immibis ◴[] No.46192033[source]
Laws aren't always written down. A good example is what happens if you criticize Israel - the government, if it notices you, will come down on you like a sack of bricks, even though there's no law that says "don't criticize Israel". https://youtu.be/zJt3omLLAuA

Likewise, there's no law saying "don't accept payment in Monero" but you may be jailed for money laundering if the government notices you.