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What the heck is going on at Apple?

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148 points methuselah_in | 3 comments | 07 Dec 25 16:54 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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skeeter2020 ◴[08 Dec 25 02:17 UTC] No.46187567[source]▶
3 retirements and a VP taking an obvious promotion at Meta: not really the "sky is falling" event they try to paint. Tim Cook stepping down would (if it even happens) be a big deal, but he's not the heart of the company. He's been an extremely compentent accountant; enjoy your retirement party and gold watch. And to suggest they are falling behind because they're not investing hundreds of billions in an AI "strategy" that shows no pay-off - while the other tech companies start to scale back their capital investments? I've never been a huge Apple fan as a company but their current situation makes me more bullish than ever.
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NBJack ◴[08 Dec 25 03:43 UTC] No.46188046[source]▶
Perhaps the sky already fell a while back?

I don't really mind that they aren't on the LLM bandwagon, but Siri seems to have stagnated. The big "Apple Intelligence" capabilities of the iPhone 16 haven't exactly landed. The Vision Pro seems to be on at least a partial depreciation path.

The only real innovation I've seen in the last decade has been the M line of chips. Mind you, these are undeniably really good; but even that hasn't changed the market share that much (though it is going up and trending well).

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keyle ◴[08 Dec 25 04:09 UTC] No.46188191[source]▶
Personally I prefer a useless Siri that I can turn off, rather than a copilot into everything I cannot turn off.

I am perfectly fine with Apple lagging behind in "AI".

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aydyn ◴[08 Dec 25 04:25 UTC] No.46188282[source]▶
Wouldnt you prefer a competent Siri that you can turn off?

Gemini on android just works. I can ask it nearly anything in spoken natural language and it'll talk back with an answer.

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1. stephenr ◴[08 Dec 25 05:32 UTC] No.46188732{4}[source]▶
I use Siri for about four or five things:

- setting a timer; - sending a text; - starting a call; - adding an item to a shopping list; - playing/controlling music (very occasionally);

Siri does all of these with 95% accuracy. Occasionally it mishears "15 minutes" as "50 minutes" if I'm rushed or something.

You use the device however it works for you, but I truly cannot comprehend the use case of a voice assistant beyond these type of tasks.

More complex tasks would likely require more concentration on the response/result, at which point I shouldn't need to do it hands free.

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2. enos_feedler ◴[08 Dec 25 15:08 UTC] No.46193078[source]▶
Apple’s analytics probably support this which is exactly why siri still sucks. But ya, everyone will continue to think they somehow know better and apple is wrong and poorly executing
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3. stephenr ◴[08 Dec 25 20:32 UTC] No.46197255[source]▶
> which is exactly why siri still sucks

It probably does what most people need it to do, so it sucks?

That's some interesting logic to say the least.