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The C++ standard for the F-35 Fighter Jet [video]

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327 points AareyBaba | 3 comments | 07 Dec 25 18:07 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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time4tea ◴[07 Dec 25 19:31 UTC] No.46184345[source]▶
a = a; // misra

Actual code i have seen with my own eyes. (Not in F-35 code)

Its a way to avoid removing an unused parameter from a method. Unused parameters are disallowed, but this is fine?

I am sceptical that these coding standards make for good code!

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tialaramex ◴[07 Dec 25 21:32 UTC] No.46185373[source]▶
Studies have looked at MISRA, I'm not aware of any for the JSF guidelines. For MISRA there's a mix, some of the rules seem to be effective (fewer defects in compliant software), some are the opposite (code which obeys these rules is more likely to have defects) and some were irrelevant.

Notably this document is from 2005. So that's after C++ was standardized but before their second bite of that particular cherry and twenty years before its author, Bjarne Stroustrup suddenly decides after years of insisting that C++ dialects are a terrible idea and will never be endorsed by the language committee, that in fact dialects (now named "profiles") are the magic ingredient to fix the festering problems with the language.

While Laurie's video is fun, I too am sceptical about the value of style guides, which is what these are. "TABS shall be avoided" or "Letters in function names shall be lowercase" isn't because somebody's aeroplane fell out of the sky - it's due to using a style Bjarne doesn't like.

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writtiewrat ◴[07 Dec 25 22:31 UTC] No.46185961[source]▶
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1. tomhow ◴[08 Dec 25 04:51 UTC] No.46188499[source]▶
We've banned this account for continual guidelines breaches across multiple accounts.
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2. menaerus ◴[08 Dec 25 07:25 UTC] No.46189401[source]▶
You do realize that there's a handful of literally the same people here on HN continuously evangelizing one technology by constantly dissing on the other? Because of the pervasiveness of such accounts/comments it invites other people, myself included, to counter-argue because most of the time the reality they're trying to portray is misrepresented or many times simply wrong. This is harmful and obviously invites for a flame war so how is that not by the same principle you applied to above account a guideline breach too?
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3. tomhow ◴[08 Dec 25 10:50 UTC] No.46190836[source]▶
We act on what we see, and we see what people make us aware of via flags and emails.

Comments like yours are difficult because they’re not actionable or able to be responded to in a way you’ll find satisfying if you don’t link to the comments that you mean.

Programming language flamewars have always been lame on HN and we have no problem taking action against perpetrators when we’re alerted to them.