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Scala 3 slowed us down?

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261 points kmaliszewski | 2 comments | 07 Dec 25 15:08 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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hunterpayne ◴[07 Dec 25 21:29 UTC] No.46185337[source]▶
The problem with Scala 3 is that nobody asked for it. The problem with Scala 2 is that the type inference part of the compiler is still broken. Nobody worked on that. Instead they changed the language in ways that don't address complaints. Completely ignore the market and deliver a product nobody wants. That's what happened here.

PS Perhaps they should make an actual unit test suite for their compiler. Instead they have a couple of dozen tests and have to guess if their compiler PR will break things.

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1. voidfunc ◴[07 Dec 25 22:00 UTC] No.46185634[source]▶
Scala has deep roots in the Ivory Towers of Academia, its not shocking they think they know better than their users what the problems with the language are and didn't do any kind of real product management to figure out the actual problems before embarking on a rebuild.
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2. js8 ◴[08 Dec 25 10:30 UTC] No.46190700[source]▶
It wouldn't be a problem, but the issue is a one of expectations.

Was Scala supposed to be a research language (focus on novel features) or an industrial language (focus on stability and maintainability)? I think Oderski wanted the first but many people wished for the second.