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ChrisMarshallNY ◴[] No.46178756[source]
I think we’re just getting started, with fake images and videos.

I suspect that people will be killed, because of outrage over fake stuff. Before the Ukraine invasion, some of the folks in Donbas made a fake bomb, complete with corpses from a morgue (with autopsy scars)[0]. That didn’t require any AI at all.

We can expect videos of unpopular minorities, doing horrible things, politicians saying stuff they never said, and evidence submitted to trial, that was completely made from whole cloth.

It’s gonna suck.

[0] https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2022/02/28/exploiting-cadave...

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oefrha ◴[] No.46179779[source]
> We can expect videos of unpopular minorities, doing horrible things

Expect? You can post a random image of an unpopular minority, add some caption saying they did horrible things, that is not reflected in the image at all, and tons of people will pile on. Don’t even need a fake video.

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yakshaving_jgt ◴[] No.46179859[source]
For some reason this hurts worse.

I was listening to James O’Brien on LBC, and [IIRC] he said he was serving jury duty with a woman who was convinced that Volodymyr Zelenskyy had spent hundreds of million of dollars on a super-yacht.

He asked if she had any evidence for that claim, and she produced a picture of a boat.

He said “That’s just a picture of a boat.”

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groestl ◴[] No.46179990[source]
Ironically, there is no evidence that woman ever said that.
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anonymous908213 ◴[] No.46180126[source]
There is, in fact, evidence that hundreds if not thousands of random people have said that: https://xcancel.com/KimDotcom/status/1729171832430027144

Perhaps you could even find that specific woman leaving an outraged comment over photos of boats if you looked hard enough!

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groestl ◴[] No.46180362{3}[source]
Yes, but in that story, parent only has the word of that Journalist. I personally don't even have that, I only have a post about it.

My deeper point is that it's arguably very difficult to establish a global, socially acceptable lower threshold of trust. Parent's level is, apparently, the word of a famous Journalist in a radio broadcast. For some, the form of a message alone makes the message worthy of trust, and AI will mess with this so much.

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jasonvorhe ◴[] No.46180438{4}[source]
Who cares about a single or two Yachts. Ukraine likely made 100 billion USD disappear and there were many people expecting just that. Just like some of the "donated equipment" started showing up on all sorts of black markets once it was shipped to Ukraine. It's just the obviously controlled media in Europe that stopped mentioning Ukraine's corruption issues right after February 2022.

Obviously I can only be a Putin-loving propaganda bot for saying such things.

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1. nickdothutton ◴[] No.46184780{5}[source]
Ukraine was, and is still, one of the most corrupt developed countries in the world. Whether it is slightly more or slightly less corrupt than Russia I do not know. Both are Oligarchic in nature. In my opinion one of the reasons the various peace deals have not succeeded yet is because they fail to acknowledge the Oligarchic nature of both states and that they will both need to continue in that mode going forwards, probably as a frozen conflict or in a system where it is in neither interest to disrupt the balance (because it would end the corruption, pocket-lining, theft, etc). Of course for the ordinary unfortunate Ukrainian, well he/she matters little or not at all to rulers on either side.