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djaouen ◴[] No.46177130[source]
As someone formally diagnosed with one of these mental illnesses, I can confidently say that coffee triggers a beneficial reaction to my illness as well as to other health-adjoint mechanisms in my body. To me, drinking coffee is like breathing air or eating food, and to go without it means symptom flare-ups.
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temp0826 ◴[] No.46177450[source]
Sounds more like dependence/addiction to me
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1. jama211 ◴[] No.46183915[source]
It’s not a disorder unless it’s causing problems in your life, definitionally. By that logic people are addicted to any medication they take long term that helps them manage any health condition. Hell, I must be addicted to eye drops because when I don’t use them I get dry eyes more often. Is that addiction/dependence?

We must be careful not to find ways to be judgemental whether intentionally or not, especially when something is non-harmful and helpful to their life. It’s not a good behavioural pattern.

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2. temp0826 ◴[] No.46187947[source]
Relief of existing symptoms is one thing, relief of withdrawal symptoms caused by the lack of the substance is another. Stopping use of your eyedrops is not the root cause of your dry eyes. (Cry me a river :) I wouldn't consider that comment judgmental...definitely not as much as talking about people's "behavioral patterns" after reading a single sentence comment anyways)
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3. jama211 ◴[] No.46213790[source]
Nope, wrong again. Lots of important medication such as SSRI’s or cancer medications have withdrawal symptoms too but it would be ridiculous to say they were addicted to them. Withdrawal symptoms are not a good enough indicator of addiction. Addiction is far more complicated and you’re trying to force a square peg through a round hole.

Also I was obviously talking about behavioural patterns in general, not judging that specific persons behaviours. The fact that you’d take what you’re doing (being judgemental) and try and paint me unsuccessfully as doing the same thing is an extremely bad faith tactic, and reveals to everyone here that you know exactly what you’re doing here.

This isn’t reddit mate. Acting this way is not appreciated.

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4. temp0826 ◴[] No.46214759{3}[source]
I never claimed someone's addiction was a disorder causing problems, that was your definition. Obviously prescription medication is a different situation, nothing is so black and white. Get off the high horse "mate", you're reading way too much into what I've said and trying putting words in my mouth to paint me as some judgmental jerk. It's not appreciated.