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theoldgreybeard ◴[] No.46182214[source]
If a carpenter builds a crappy shelf “because” his power tools are not calibrated correctly - that’s a crappy carpenter, not a crappy tool.

If a scientist uses an LLM to write a paper with fabricated citations - that’s a crappy scientist.

AI is not the problem, laziness and negligence is. There needs to be serious social consequences to this kind of thing, otherwise we are tacitly endorsing it.

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gdulli ◴[] No.46182330[source]
That's like saying guns aren't the problem, the desire to shoot is the problem. Okay, sure, but wanting something like a metal detector requires us to focus on the more tangible aspect that is the gun.
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baxtr ◴[] No.46182343[source]
If I gave you a gun would you start shooting people just because you had one?
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agentultra ◴[] No.46182382[source]
If I gave you a gun without a safety could you be the one to blame when it goes off because you weren’t careful enough?

The problem with this analogy is that it makes no sense.

LLMs aren’t guns.

The problem with using them is that humans have to review the content for accuracy. And that gets tiresome because the whole point is that the LLM saves you time and effort doing it yourself. So naturally people will tend to stop checking and assume the output is correct, “because the LLM is so good.”

Then you get false citations and bogus claims everywhere.

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1. zdragnar ◴[] No.46182503{4}[source]
> If I gave you a gun without a safety could you be the one to blame when it goes off because you weren’t careful enough?

Absolutely. Many guns don't have safties. You don't load a round in the chamber unless you intend on using it.

A gun going off when you don't intend is a negligent discharge. No ifs, ands or buts. The person in possession of the gun is always responsible for it.

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2. bluGill ◴[] No.46183061[source]
> A gun going off when you don't intend is a negligent discharg

false. A gun goes off when not intended too often to claim that. It has happned to me - I then took the gun to a qualified gunsmith for repairs.

A gun they fires and hits anything you didn't intend to is negligent discharge even if you intended to shoot. Gun saftey is about assuming a gun that could possible fire will and ensuring nothing bad can happen. When looking at gun in a store (that you might want to buy) you aim it at an upper corner where even if it fires the odds of something bad resulting is the least lively to happen (it should be unloaded - and you may have checked, but you still aim there!)

same with cat toy lazers - they should be safe to shine in an eye - but you still point in a safe direction.