←back to thread

430 points mhb | 4 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source
Show context
techblueberry ◴[] No.46177361[source]
I will pre-empt this by saying I most certainly look to the past with rose colored glasses, and some of this is for sure childhood nostalgia, but one thing I appreciate about the aesthetics of the past is they felt more… Honest; for lack of a better term. Things made out of wood and metal were actually made out of hardwood and metal. Not so many composites that fall apart instead of wear ala wabi-sabi. So I think there’s something to the fact that the past was kind of “cute”, just not in all storybook way.

Theres a lake I visit in the summer that I’ve been visiting since the 80’s, and the houses used to all be wood cottages with no fences, now they’re all mansions, many walled off. Sure the houses weren’t insulated, and you would be crammed in there together, but it felt way more…. Human? Communal?

replies(8): >>46177398 #>>46177495 #>>46177549 #>>46178876 #>>46179203 #>>46179581 #>>46181436 #>>46186837 #
andrewvc ◴[] No.46177549[source]
Maybe, but really consumerism wasn’t a thing for most of history because almost no one had the money to decorate intentionally in the way we do today. The very wealthy did to varying extents. When we look at the past we always imagine ourselves to be the ones in Downton Abbey, but most people were lucky to inherit some furniture.

I would argue that the reverence for real wood and craft you espoused (and I share) is in part possible due to living in a consumerist society. For what it’s worth it is still possible to buy those same quality goods today, and certainly at lower cost . However, I would balk at paying the historical fraction of my income (or multiple if we go back to the 1700s), for a new bed.

In short cheap dishonest crap is what we ultimately want. It lets us focus our time and resources elsewhere

replies(6): >>46177571 #>>46178587 #>>46178838 #>>46179851 #>>46180471 #>>46183146 #
ip26 ◴[] No.46178838[source]
My first exposure to this - tired of $40 particleboard bookshelves and tables, I went looking for solid wood furniture, reasoning it was fine to spend a little more for something that would last. I found it- and discovered humble, small tables were a months pay.

I don't want cheap crap, but I suddenly appreciated why we've moved away from tables that can support a car.

replies(3): >>46179019 #>>46180125 #>>46181411 #
p1necone ◴[] No.46179019[source]
This is true of basically everything people complain about having gotten worse over time.

Whiteware and kitchen appliances are the same - you can absolutely buy a fridge, or a stand mixer or whatever that will work well and last forever. It's just the value proposition compared to cheap crap that will still likely last for a few years but at a 1/5th of the price is not great unless you're going to use it really heavily.

replies(2): >>46179448 #>>46183221 #
gtowey ◴[] No.46179448{3}[source]
Last time I had to buy a refrigerator it seemed like the choice was between one that cost around $1k and one that cost $10k. I really couldn't find a mid quality option. There wasn't a price point at around 2x the cheap ones for better quality. Those price points exist, it's just that they're usually the same cheap fridges crammed full of pointless features that actually make the whole thing less reliable because it's more stuff to break.

What I wanted was a refrigerator with a reliable compressor. That's where it really seemed like the only options are cheap and astronomical.

replies(3): >>46180098 #>>46183290 #>>46190732 #
1. M95D ◴[] No.46180098{4}[source]
Compressor is replaceable. Also, how do you judge reliability of a compressor before buying it?

Instead, try to find a refrigerator with access to the cooling pipes. Last fridge I threw away had a leak that couldn't be patched because the pipes were all embedded in the plastic walls of the fridge.

replies(2): >>46180221 #>>46180553 #
2. Qwertious ◴[] No.46180221[source]
>how do you judge reliability of a compressor before buying it?

Reviews, specs, teardowns, brand name.

replies(1): >>46181032 #
3. xyzzy123 ◴[] No.46180553[source]
Yeah I think the caveat is that the compressor and maybe seals, lights and few other bits are the ONLY repairable parts of most fridges. The whole structure of a modern fridge is foam panels and sheet metal folds that aren't ever meant to come apart after being assembled.
4. acessoproibido ◴[] No.46181032[source]
Where do you find reviews you can trust? Honest question