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The past was not that cute

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430 points mhb | 12 comments | 06 Dec 25 21:53 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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PeterHolzwarth ◴[07 Dec 25 04:48 UTC] No.46179223[source]▶
"A woman's work is never done."

In our agrarian past, the cultural division of labor at the time said that men worked the field, women ran the home. And that later job was brutal, never-ending, and consumed all waking hours until the day she died.

Men broke their backs in the field, women consumed their lives doing the ceaseless work that never ended, every waking moment. (And occasionally helped out in the field, too).

Running a family was a brutal two-person job -- and the kids had to dive in to help out the second they could lift something heavier than a couple pounds.

We forget so easily that for the entire history of our species - up until just recently - simply staying alive and somewhat warm and minimally fed was a hundred-hour-a-week job for mom and dad.

There are important downsides, but the Green Revolution - and dare I say it, the industrial revolution - was truly transformative for our species.

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nowittyusername ◴[07 Dec 25 05:40 UTC] No.46179422[source]▶
When humans domesticated animals and started tending to the fields is when IMO it all went down hill. That change brought in modern civilization with all its advantages but moreeso its disadvantages and maladaptive behaviors of the human mind. We shoulda stayed hunter gatherers, I am almost certain we would have been happier.
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PeterHolzwarth ◴[07 Dec 25 05:45 UTC] No.46179444[source]▶
You first.

And no cheating by bringing antibiotics with you.

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throwawaylaptop ◴[07 Dec 25 06:24 UTC] No.46179601[source]▶
Maybe it's a herd immunity thing or something and others are keeping me safe, but I'm 41 and Ive never taken an antibiotic and neither has anyone else in my family to my knowledge. I still can't figure out if it's the chicken or the egg.. have I never been sick because I don't take part in the medical system, or do I not take part because I've never been sick.. Then again last time my cuticle got infected I sterilized a knife and drained it myself. My friend said he had something similar and they gave him an antibiotic yet DIDNT drain it until it got worse and then they just did what I did. But at least they got to sell some antibiotics.
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1. manmal ◴[07 Dec 25 06:36 UTC] No.46179652[source]▶
Antibiotics should IMO be reserved for life threatening situations, or likely upcoming life threatening situations. In the 80s as a toddler I was given antibiotics for measles (they can’t possibly work on viruses), and had half a year of diarrhea afterwards.
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2. mcny ◴[07 Dec 25 06:48 UTC] No.46179723[source]▶
It is funny you say that. Where do you draw the line?

I had what was most likely poison ivy. Covered both arms. And was spreading. What do you propose my nurse practitioner to do? Not prescribe any antibiotics? To what end? I should continue to suffer because of what reason?

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3. SturgeonsLaw ◴[07 Dec 25 07:09 UTC] No.46179810[source]▶
Antibiotics do one thing, and one thing only - kill bacteria. They don't do anything for viruses, fungal infection, inflammation, chemical irritants or pain relief.

In the case of poison ivy, all antibiotics would do is lower the already slim odds of a secondary infection. They wouldn't prevent the contact dermatitis/inflammation from urishiol.

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4. tsimionescu ◴[07 Dec 25 07:13 UTC] No.46179840[source]▶
Poison ivy is a plant that causes a topical rash, antibiotics can't help in any way with this. Maybe you've mistyped something?
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5. mcny ◴[07 Dec 25 07:21 UTC] No.46179876{3}[source]▶
No. I had broken skin barrier. Pus coming out and dripping. The use of antibiotics was definitely warranted. Again, who do you want to decide whether the use of antibiotics is ok and under what conditions?

Should I be dying before you grant me antibiotics? What kind of nonsense is this?

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6. mcny ◴[07 Dec 25 07:24 UTC] No.46179894{3}[source]▶
When poison ivy spreads on skin, you have broken skin barrier with yellow liquid coming out. Then the places this yellow liquid touched also gets itchy and you now have multiple broken skin barrier everywhere.

When skin barrier gets broken like this, you are now vulnerable to bacterial infection.

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7. throwawaylaptop ◴[07 Dec 25 07:51 UTC] No.46180012{4}[source]▶
I know people that have more skin lost than you'd care to look at from semi serious motorcycle crashes, and no they don't just take antibiotics for fun.

I can't believe someone gave you anti biotics for poison ivy.

At this point I genuinely consider the medical system about as bad as the service department at a car dealership. They'll sell you anything technically legal just to keep their stats high.

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8. throwawaylaptop ◴[07 Dec 25 07:55 UTC] No.46180027{4}[source]▶
I personally think you were given antibiotics needlessly just for the sake of it..

But yes, I think you should have developed some kind of infection, and being showing trouble of fighting it off, before you're given antibiotics.

9. mcny ◴[07 Dec 25 08:15 UTC] No.46180093{5}[source]▶
> At this point I genuinely consider the medical system about as bad as the service department at a car dealership. They'll sell you anything technically legal just to keep their stats high.

No, the service department has a bad reputation for a reason. They tried to tell me a wiper blade would cost me USD 80 with a straight face. Not even the whole set, a single wiper blade. It costs under USD 15 anywhere else other than the dealership.

My guess is they are counting on people not looking at the itemized bill.

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10. manmal ◴[07 Dec 25 10:03 UTC] No.46180572{4}[source]▶
For topical use, maybe an iodine spray would have been better suited. Iodine kills way more pathogens than antibiotics, and it's very good at that, and has no reported cases of resistance development.
11. monadgonad ◴[07 Dec 25 10:19 UTC] No.46180652[source]▶
Antibiotics don’t stop you suffering from poison ivy. At all. In other posts you say you had a broken skin barrier that’s vulnerable to infection, so you presumably know that this is not the same as actually having a bacterial infection, and that antibiotics are only a prophylactic, not a treatment. So stop making out that people are dying to deny you treatment.
12. throwawaylaptop ◴[07 Dec 25 10:42 UTC] No.46180757{6}[source]▶
I hope this is satire.