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walterbell ◴[] No.46174679[source]
https://tbot.substack.com/p/grapheneos-new-oem-partnership

> GrapheneOS has officially confirmed a major new hardware partnership—one that marks the end of its long-standing Pixel exclusivity. According to the team, work with a major Android OEM began in June and is now moving toward the development of a next-generation smartphone built to meet GrapheneOS’ strict privacy and security standards.

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axelthegerman ◴[] No.46175172[source]
Oh that's one of the best news in the smartphone world in a long time.

It's impossible to escape the Apple/Google duopoly but at least GrapheneOS makes the most out of Android regarding privacy.

I still wish we could get some kind of low resource, stable and mature Android clone instead of Google needlessly increasing complexity but this will over time break app compatibility (Google will make sure of it)

Edit: I do think Pixel devices used to be one of the best but still I'd like to choose my hardware and software separately interoperating via standards

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tenthirtyam ◴[] No.46175845[source]
I'm not knowledgeable enough -- what would it take to escape the Apple/Google duopoly?

I'm imagining a future where you buy a smartphone and when you do the first configuration, it asks you which services provider you want to use. Google and Apple are probably at the top of the list, but at the bottom there is "custom..." where you can specify the IP or host.domain of your own self-hosted setup.

Then, when you download an app, the app informs the app provider of this configuration and so your notifications (messenger, social media, games, banking, whatever) get delivered to that services provider and your phone gets them from there accordingly.

Is there anything like that in the world today?

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fsflover ◴[] No.46176711{3}[source]
You can escape the duopoly by using a GNI/Linux phone, Librem 5 or Pinephone, but don't expect any support from Google or Apple for them. I'm using the former as a daily driver.
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1. kahnclusions ◴[] No.46178407{4}[source]
I would not trust any of these. They are a security disaster, lacking even basic features for securing your device against tampering and hacking.

There is a reason GrapheneOS is number one and a reason why they only run on Pixels (for now).

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2. DANmode ◴[] No.46178436[source]
Depends on your threat model, but yes.
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3. udev4096 ◴[] No.46179428[source]
GOS fits into pretty much any threat model where you remotely care about privacy or security
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4. DANmode ◴[] No.46179656{3}[source]
This is true.

Many more care about neither,

or intermittently care about neither,

than most take into account.

5. fsflover ◴[] No.46180518[source]
> security disaster, lacking even basic features for securing your device against tampering and hacking

Indeed the GrapheneOS community is known for attacking the GNU/Linux mobile with false claims, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45562484.

Security is a meaningless word without defining a threat model. Try to defend your GrapheneOS against Google, especially these two problems: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45208925 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45017028.

See also good replies by other people here comparing GOS with Pinephone: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32496220

6. fsflover ◴[] No.46180526{3}[source]
No, it doesn't. It obeys Google's long-term development strategy for the OS. Google and privacy are absolutely incompatible. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29502439