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mystraline ◴[] No.46177661[source]
The article is using "voluntary" in a very questionable fashion.

> Germany's parliament, the Bundestag, has voted to introduce voluntary military service...

> The form will be mandatory for men and voluntary for women.

> The government says military service will be voluntary for as long as possible, but from July 2027, all 18-year-old men will have to take a medical exam to assess their fitness for possible military service.

> a form of compulsory military service could be considered by the Bundestag.

Well, that escalated quickly. There's nothing here that could be really described as "voluntary".

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baal80spam ◴[] No.46177699[source]
> The form will be mandatory for men and voluntary for women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal

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JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.46177818[source]
One, I'm not sure what American founding ideals have to do with Germany.

Two, Germany, like most countries and frankly human populations, has a male surplus in its fighting-age population [1]. This is why, historically, large socities tended to wage war with men first. (Even those that e.g. held elite units in reserve, which undermines the usual biological argument.)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany#/media...

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throw310822 ◴[] No.46177874[source]
The male surplus is a few tens of thousands, way to small to make up an army; and no, that is not the reason why men and not women go to war.
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1. JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.46177944[source]
> make surplus is a few tens of thousands, way to small to make up an army

...why would you populate your army solely with the surplus? The point is you have a buffer that you can burn without immediately impacting your demographics for the long term.

> that is not the reason why men and not women go to war

It's a serious theory [1]. (It's more correct to say the surplus and it share a common cause.)

[1] https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-319-19650-3_931