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As usual, there are countless immigration topics and I'll be guided by whatever you're concerned with. Please remember that I can't provide legal advice on specific cases for obvious liability reasons because I won't have access to all the facts. Please stick to a factual discussion in your questions and comments and I'll do the same in my answers!

Previous threads we've done: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=proberts.

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miotintherain ◴[] No.46163747[source]
Hi Peter, thanks for the AMA!

I work for an American company and I am based in Europe. I visit the US for work every now and then. I heard a lot of horror stories regarding border entries. If I am ever in a situation where the border police asks for access to my personal phone and pin code, what are my options? Can I refuse and what happens then?

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proberts ◴[] No.46165193[source]
You are within your rights to say no but if you say no, almost certainly CBP will assume that you are hiding something and deny you admission.
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ToucanLoucan[dead post] ◴[] No.46165239[source]
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wrs ◴[] No.46166512[source]
Who said anything about a “right to enter”? This is just about not massively invading visitors’ privacy for no good reason.

Of course, if you just don’t want anyone with intelligence or dignity to visit the country, this is great policy.

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zahlman ◴[] No.46166720[source]
As explained upthread,

> You are within your rights to say no

Given that you don't have a right to enter, if you say no (which you are within your rights to do), and you are denied entry, then nothing wrong has happened.

If you believe that they shouldn't make entry conditional on something, then you are asserting a right to enter. That's what "right" means.

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tempfile ◴[] No.46166910[source]
This argument is absurd.

If someone comes up to me and asks for food, I am not obliged to give it to them.

If I say to them, "I will give you food, on the condition that I can punch you in the face", and they decline to be punched in the face, do you really believe "nothing wrong has happened"? That I, applying an unethical condition, did nothing wrong?

If someone else says "You must not make punching someone in the face a precondition of giving them food", does that create a "right to food"? Of course not.

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Detrytus ◴[] No.46167286[source]
Well, by offering food for punch in the face you changed it from charity to free market transaction. Basically you gave them a chance to earn their food instead of just giving it to them. If they deem the price too high and refuse your offer then again, nothing bad happened.
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tempfile ◴[] No.46167313[source]
Not all free market transactions are reasonable. Selling yourself into slavery is a "free market transaction" I hope you would not consider legitimate.
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zahlman ◴[] No.46168174[source]
Being offered something unreasonable, given free reign to decline that offer, does not cause harm.
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tempfile ◴[] No.46172287[source]
Yes, it does. That's why job offers that state "do not apply if you're a woman" are illegal. You just don't care about this particular harm.
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1. zahlman ◴[] No.46174639[source]
> That's why job offers that state "do not apply if you're a woman" are illegal.

This is not an example of "being offered something unreasonable, being given free reign to decline the offer".

> You just don't care about this particular harm.

This is both incorrect and insulting.