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509 points nullpxl | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0.001s | source

Hi! Recently smart-glasses with cameras like the Meta Ray-bans seem to be getting more popular. As does some people's desire to remove/cover up the recording indicator LED. I wanted to see if there's a way to detect when people are recording with these types of glasses, so a little bit ago I started working this project. I've hit a little bit of a wall though so I'm very much open to ideas!

I've written a bunch more on the link (+photos are there), but essentially this uses 2 fingerprinting approaches: - retro-reflectivity of the camera sensor by looking at IR reflections. mixed results here. - wireless traffic (primarily BLE, also looking into BTC and wifi)

For the latter, I'm currently just using an ESP32, and I can consistently detect when the Meta Raybans are 1) pairing, 2) first powered on, 3) (less consistently) when they're taken out of the charging case. When they do detect something, it plays a little jingle next to your ear.

Ideally I want to be able to detect them when they're in use, and not just at boot. I've come across the nRF52840, which seems like it can follow directed BLE traffic beyond the initial broadcast, but from my understanding it would still need to catch the first CONNECT_REQ event regardless. On the bluetooth classic side of things, all the hardware looks really expensive! Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks!

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keepamovin ◴[] No.46077632[source]
I look forward to the social media rage meltdown shorts that widespread adoption of this tech will precipitate. I think I'm kidding. I should be kidding. But I am curious...

Question for people who resonate with this: whenever someone is holding their cellphone at an angle that "could be inferred" to be imaging you, how do you feel and think?

I grew up on Earth before the cellpocalypse (phone zombies, etc), and went through a stage of noticing all these new 'cameras' everywhere, but then I stoppped attending to it.

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ghaff ◴[] No.46078352[source]
It's probably inevitable over time. "Smart" AR glasses that are indistinguishable from just a pair of regular glasses seem like something inevitable over the next decade or two.
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objcts ◴[] No.46078718[source]
is this the future we actually want????

or one that is truly inevitable and can’t be stopped?

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ghaff ◴[] No.46078784[source]
Want? I don't know. Outside of draconian regulation and punishment I don't see how you really stop aside from some level of social pressure/norms which can work to a degree. (No, you don't film/livestream the dinner party among friends that you are at.) People post photos from social events all the time. That ship has mostly sailed. Video and audio is mostly just an additional increment.
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keepamovin ◴[] No.46079806[source]
Just wait for the bionic eyeballs!
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ghaff ◴[] No.46080061{3}[source]
A few years back there was a prototype contact lens at HotChips for AR. I assume video/audio recording in jewelry of various types today would be fairly straightforward at least in conjunction with recording on a wireless device in a pocket or transmitting over cellular in some manner. Of course, audio recording (wearing a wire) has been practical for decades.
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1. keepamovin ◴[] No.46094893{4}[source]
It's like "Everyone can be Q" now.