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csense ◴[] No.46000402[source]
Anecdotally, two factors at work here:

- Schools have stopped educating in favor of test metrics, making sure the worst students pass, and pushing borderline indoctrination of controversial, left-ish values.

- With remote education during the pandemic, people have more visibility into their school's day-to-day teaching.

It's hard to fix the US education system by political means. If you have the ability to do so, it's comparatively much easier to pull your kids out and homeschool them.

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ponooqjoqo ◴[] No.46001208[source]
> pushing borderline indoctrination of controversial, left-ish values

Which values? I haven't gone to school in a long time.

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obscurette ◴[] No.46008190[source]
Not a GP and I don't know if any of these qualifies as "left-ish" (which is very US specific IMHO), but as I understand, the education all over the western culture is destroyed by few really simple and really crazy (for me) ideas:

- Kids are never responsible for anything.

- Teachers are responsible for everything.

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ilikecakeandpie ◴[] No.46008251[source]
That's a parenting problem though, not an education problem, right?
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1. obscurette ◴[] No.46008669{3}[source]
Actually no. The problem comes from society. If you think that kids should be responsible for anything, you are a bad person. If you think that kids should be punished if they do something really bad, you are a monster.

Here we had a case teenagers bullying their teacher – abused her verbally during school, posted deepfake revenge porn into internet, stole stuff from her garden etc. She cried for help and the case was investigated by commission that included people from people from ministry of education, police and psychologists. But the commission concluded that she was the problem – she lacked the skills to build a trusting relationship with kids.