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jmathai ◴[] No.46000348[source]
I do think Covid forced people to ask questions they hadn’t before.

We have sent our kids to private, poor quality and top rated schools.

We saw a stark difference between the poor quality and higher cost options. No surprise.

But the reason we are considering home schooling our younger kids was surprising. It says something about a system dedicated to teaching children when parents think they can do as well or better.

That’s just education. The social situation in schools is ludicrous. Phones, social media, etc. what a terrible environment we adults have created for kids to learn both educationally and socially.

Home schooling has answers for ALL of that.

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Esophagus4 ◴[] No.46000409[source]
How are you thinking about the socialization aspects of homeschooling vs not?

I imagine part of the benefit of schooling is to socialize children with their peers so I’m curious how you thought about it.

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AnimalMuppet ◴[] No.46000477[source]
We homeschooled. When we wanted to socialize our kids, we shoved them into the restroom and beat them up for their lunch money.

I kid, but there's a real point: So much of the socialization is bad.

More: Kids aren't going to be kids forever. Does socialization with a bunch of other kids prepare them for the adult society that they're going to go into?

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1. estearum ◴[] No.46000624[source]
Well it should, yes, given that socialization is the result of shared social experiences.

Experiencing bullying is (unironically) one of those shared social experiences that create bonds with people (whether as victim, perpetrator, or witness)

These are real social dynamics that actually exist in adult life, and I suspect people who are totally blindsided by them are maladapted

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2. JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.46001130[source]
> Experiencing bullying is (unironically) one of those shared social experiences

It also teaches you to deal with bullies. That said, we had homeschooled kids in my Boy Scouts troop. They learned how to deal with bullies just fine.

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3. somanyphotons ◴[] No.46007625[source]
Kids (and teachers) generally don't deal with bullies well.

It really just results in them continuing to being bullied, or reacting badly and getting blamed themselves.

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4. JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.46007897{3}[source]
> Kids (and teachers) generally don't deal with bullies well

Are there studies on whether bullying is higher in lightly supervised versus moderately supervised groups? Or mixed-age versus single-age groups?

Scouting is lightly-supervised mixed-age groups. If an older kid bullied a younger kid, that resulted in adults reading them the riot act. But if a younger kid bullied a younger kid, the two sort of wound up sorting it out until someone threw a punch or pissed off an older kid. (For being annoying.) That second dynamic was, to my memory, unique to mixed-age groups.

5. balamatom ◴[] No.46007972[source]
>(whether as victim, perpetrator, or witness)

Watch it, you almost said "rescuer" there.

6. oceanplexian ◴[] No.46008340[source]
Why would you need to learn to deal with bullies?

If you try that the modern world as an adult you get charged with aggravated assault, pick up a criminal record and then are weeded out from polite society.

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7. JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.46008598{3}[source]
> Why would you need to learn to deal with bullies?

Because bullying is an extreme example of a common human power dynamic.

> If you try that the modern world as an adult you get charged with aggravated assault, pick up a criminal record and then are weeded out from polite society

Fair enough. I was thinking exclusively of non-violent bullying. (It may get physical. But in a roughhousing way. Not one intended to cause pain or injury.)