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    Prozac 'no better than placebo' for treating children with depression, experts

    (www.theguardian.com)
    206 points pseudolus | 14 comments | 21 Nov 25 00:02 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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    monero-xmr ◴[21 Nov 25 01:01 UTC] No.46000021[source]▶
    SSRIs literally saved my life, no question about it. Night and day difference, from daily panic attacks destroying my life, happiness, and career, to being almost completely better in 2 weeks after starting. I tried exercise and diet and meditation and you name it, for years!, before I gave medication a go.

    Do not care what the science says. It 100% worked for me. Please get help if you need it, tens of millions of people use this medicine successfully

    Articles like this are part of the narrative that SSRIs in general are no better than placebo. Absolutely not true for me!

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    1. fgonzag ◴[21 Nov 25 01:14 UTC] No.46000095[source]▶
    Same here, after struggling for 39 years, glp-1 + SSRI + ADHD meds have made me a normal productive human, and 2 years ago I had pretty much given up on the possibility.

    Having a child forced me to fix my life, and I'm incredibly happy because of it.

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    2. ipnon ◴[21 Nov 25 01:16 UTC] No.46000104[source]▶
    Pharmacology and chemistry can really make the world a better place.
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    3. djohnston ◴[21 Nov 25 01:27 UTC] No.46000179[source]▶
    Evidently not for children with depression. But yes chemistry is great.
    4. floundy ◴[21 Nov 25 01:44 UTC] No.46000273[source]▶
    Who would have figured that microdosing amphetamines all day leads to increased productivity?
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    5. zer00eyz ◴[21 Nov 25 01:54 UTC] No.46000337[source]▶
    See: The dot com boom and its recovery into Web 2.0

    It was so pervasive at the time that the references to it spilled over into SF Bay Area hip hop culture...

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    6. MattRix ◴[21 Nov 25 02:26 UTC] No.46000550[source]▶
    This seems a little snarky. For someone with ADHD it’s not as much about “increased” productivity but rather non-zero productivity.
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    7. thebigspacefuck ◴[21 Nov 25 02:38 UTC] No.46000630[source]▶
    What’s normal anyway?
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    8. hirvi74 ◴[21 Nov 25 02:53 UTC] No.46000706[source]▶
    Doctors. That is why they prescribe it.
    9. hirvi74 ◴[21 Nov 25 02:55 UTC] No.46000713{3}[source]▶
    As someone with ADHD, if your productivity was decreased or did not increase in the slightest, then I doubt a doctor would keep prescribing the medication. Such increases do not have to be astronomically large, but I do believe increasing the productivity of people with ADHD is absolutely part of the benefit.
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    10. pessimizer ◴[21 Nov 25 03:04 UTC] No.46000769{3}[source]▶
    Massive amounts of cocaine did the same for the housing bubble in the 2000s.
    11. MattRix ◴[21 Nov 25 13:53 UTC] No.46004620{4}[source]▶
    I agree, but I think you’re misunderstanding my comment. I was replying to a snarky comment that seemed to imply that the effect of taking amphetamines is obvious and mundane.

    The point I was trying to make is that the effect on someone with ADHD can be profound and transformative, not like going from 80 to 100 but rather from 0 to 100. You suddenly feel like a functional person (I say this as someone with ADHD).

    12. IAmBroom ◴[21 Nov 25 15:13 UTC] No.46005318[source]▶
    I think that's a shorthand for "not dysfunctional and neurotically impaired".
    13. fgonzag ◴[21 Nov 25 18:03 UTC] No.46006960[source]▶
    For me? Not being hyper anxious all day (to the point that I just freeze and procrastinate all day), being able to sort of focus on the most important task (I'm still ADHD with 1000 unfinished projects, but at least I finish the things that have to be finished), eating healthy and enjoying exercising (100 lbs down and got quite good at tennis), not entering into a rage state due to anxiety overflow everytime I fight with my wife, being able to regulate my emotions, I could go on and on honestly.
    14. 331c8c71 ◴[21 Nov 25 23:20 UTC] No.46010258[source]▶
    Yoir choice between the red pill, the blue pill or no pill is pretty obvious but this choice is highly subjective.