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PHP 8.5

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202 points brentroose | 1 comments | 20 Nov 25 06:07 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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darkamaul ◴[20 Nov 25 09:16 UTC] No.45990664[source]▶
PHP's evolution since PHP 5 has been substantial, and I think this is a real problem. As someone who learned the language years ago, the pace of change (generics, attributes, match expressions, typed properties) makes modern codebases genuinely difficult to follow.

I suspect this affects many developers who cut their teeth on PHP but haven't kept up. The language has become a different beast, which is a strength for the community but a barrier to re-entry.

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phplovesong ◴[20 Nov 25 09:38 UTC] No.45990834[source]▶
PHP has no generics? I read somewhere that is was "too hard" to get right in PHP land, mostly because of how primitive the typesystem is.
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1. senfiaj ◴[20 Nov 25 14:02 UTC] No.45992643[source]▶
You are probably talking about this: https://stitcher.io/blog/generics-in-php-3 . If I remember correctly, the author claims it will either cause runtime overhead or extreme memory overhead. The best solution is to introduce a typed superset of PHP like TypeScript was done for JavaScript.