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Lapsa ◴[] No.45957619[source]
more or less same crap is achieved via radiomyography from your local telecom towers. down to deciphering your inner monologue
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BriggyDwiggs42 ◴[] No.45966608[source]
Were this the case, it would be trivial to read the internal monologue from your brain activity with a device placed on your head. Can you find me examples of medical devices that can do this?
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Lapsa ◴[] No.45969562[source]
here's an example - you can download and run code for yourself https://github.com/CNN-for-EEG-classification/CNN-EEG
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BriggyDwiggs42 ◴[] No.45974892[source]
That’s just a library that applies a CNN to EEG, but that doesn’t show that it can actually extract text reliably. As far as I know, the machines that successfully do that use the nerve signals to vocal muscles, not the brain directly.
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Lapsa ◴[] No.45976845[source]
and you need to take into account the background I have. (synthetic?) telepathy is what I'm forced to deal with every day (and yes - with nearly no way to prove it to you). radiomyography and microwave auditory effect is the best and most suitable explanation I've managed to find at least somewhat backed up with public scientific papers. no real contradictions, certainly seems more truthful than "evil shamans hate you and your astral implants". I don't have a hard evidence in a form of working device nor can I afford it. keep your pills to yourself
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BriggyDwiggs42 ◴[] No.45977874[source]
What makes you a strategic target? I don’t have those voices.
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1. Lapsa ◴[] No.45983590{3}[source]
that's like asking to boast. and I don't think I'm alone - there's quite an influx in mental patients and hinting in such directions (typically - aliens). I suspect a lot of people are in denial of what they have experienced knowing very well that society marks it as schizophrenia. go check youtube on keywords: gang stalking, targeted individual, voice to skull. my guess on why you don't have them: it's still assumed you are loyal enough / can be manipulated in more regular ways
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2. BriggyDwiggs42 ◴[] No.45990002[source]
>it's still assumed you are loyal enough / can be manipulated in more regular ways

Yeah fair enough I suppose. To be honest, what you’ve expressed resembles schizophrenia very closely. How are sure that the voices aren’t externalizations of yourself, or processes taking place within you?

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3. Lapsa ◴[] No.45995651[source]
are you a doctor? I can tell you anecdotes of hearing never before heard person names and couple days later stumbling upon them (usually watching shows I routinely watch). or about the time voices took a Christmas holiday break the first year (my guess - clankers weren't fine tuned enough to run on their own). or that I led unintoxicated, stressless and healthy lifestyle yet the voices started suddenly as if somebody flipped a switch. point is - this is not my burden and shouldn't be. how do doctors rule out microwave auditory effect? aren't you worried that in the world we living in potentially anyone can mark somebody else as schizophrenic? cause if you don't - I might just as well affirm that any kind of sound takes place within you and hence makes you schizophrenic.
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4. Lapsa ◴[] No.45996014[source]
oh... forgot to mention - frequency spectrum of what's heard fits to what's described on James C. Lin's paper. ```For human heads, the theory predicted frequencies between 7 and 15 kHz, which are clearly within the audible range of humans.``` for me it feels more like 2kHz-10kHz but clearly they can't (or deliberately avoid) play me some deep bass music.
5. BriggyDwiggs42 ◴[] No.45999897{3}[source]
>are you a doctor?

No and I’m not trying to diagnose you or something. You brought it up so I felt I should be honest based on what little I know about the condition. Take it with a grain of salt.

>I can tell you anecdotes of hearing never before heard person names and couple days later stumbling upon them (usually watching shows I routinely watch)

If you routinely watch the show, maybe it came up earlier and you forgot?

>point is - this is not my burden and shouldn't be.

See I get what you mean. I’m not trying to say it’s your responsibility or something. I just don’t think you should have to put up with shit that bothers you all the time, and were I correct that it’s some known medical condition, it might be much easier to make it stop than if it’s a massive organized group trying to manipulate you. Do you lose anything giving the medical thing a shot?

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6. Lapsa ◴[] No.45999955{4}[source]
> If you routinely watch the show, maybe it came up earlier and you forgot?

no

> Do you lose anything giving the medical thing a shot?

a lot

7. Lapsa ◴[] No.46000743{4}[source]
in Germany - prescription drug addiction is more widespread than alcoholism
8. Lapsa ◴[] No.46000771{4}[source]
why do you suppose blind from birth people are immune to schizophrenia?
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9. Lapsa ◴[] No.46000861{4}[source]
why do you think it has to be massive and organized? I estimate that with a good know how-to whole thing costs about $1k in equipment and runs unattended.
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10. BriggyDwiggs42 ◴[] No.46006534{5}[source]
Are they? I figure they just don’t have visual hallucinations.
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11. BriggyDwiggs42 ◴[] No.46006539{5}[source]
I thought it was from telecom towers?
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12. Lapsa ◴[] No.46007072{6}[source]
I think so too. it's a radio antenna and some software that can run unattended. what I can do is note how accessible such tech is - reasoning about scale of anonymous entity is somewhat pointless (you called out massive & organized).
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13. Lapsa ◴[] No.46007207{6}[source]
perhaps immunity ain't confirmed. but just recently there was an article of a complete absence of documented cases. not a single blind from birth person has ever been diagnosed with schizophrenia. why do you suppose that's so? if I put on my conspiracy hat and go balls to the wall - arguably whole disease thing can be painted as a hoax, as an another form of a societal control. how have you ruled out such possibility? have you read about mental disease treatment from 1950s and after-lobotomy surgery ice cream treats? I don't have visual hallucinations either
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14. BriggyDwiggs42 ◴[] No.46012605{7}[source]
Fair. Could you build a receiver that would detect the microwave signal? Probably wouldn’t be too difficult, and you seem like a technical person. You could prove it or, at worst, stop anyone from sending the signal if they wanted to avoid detection.
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15. BriggyDwiggs42 ◴[] No.46012616{7}[source]
Hmm I think you’re right. That’s really interesting. If this implies it’s a deliberately constructed phenomenon, what mechanisms could be responsible for producing it visually?
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16. Lapsa ◴[] No.46019411{8}[source]
you mean hallucinations? visual signal gets rewired and skips the perception part. neuroscience can provide more details. I'm barely interested as I have reasonably strong aphantasia and don't suffer (yet?) from such issues
17. Lapsa ◴[] No.46019421{8}[source]
I would love to but I can barely afford food. so much for 15 years of software development experience...
18. Lapsa ◴[] No.46019454{8}[source]
worth mentioning is that bone conduction headphones are somewhat effective at interfering with the voices. not the case with air conduction (regular speakers). which also aligns with paper by James
19. Lapsa ◴[] No.46021764{8}[source]
https://amitzalcher.github.io/Brain-IT/ perhaps replaying back such signal recordings