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baklavaEmperor ◴[] No.45957934[source]
What’s striking is how often these ‘small’ surveillance tech stories trace back to the same state-aligned ecosystem. When Israel does it, it’s treated as a complex security issue. When another ‘bad’ country does the same thing, we immediately call it espionage. And almost on cue, the discussion drifts anywhere except the uncomfortable fact that it’s the same ecosystem from the same country showing up again.
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crmd ◴[] No.45958632[source]
it’s a tough infosec situation because the tel aviv-haifa corridor in israel has an enormous amount of computer science R&D going on that gives US companies a competitive advantage.

for example, annapurna labs in haifa develops the technology behind AWS’s nitro cards, which run the hypervisor, block storage, and networking in every EC2 server.

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1. Cthulhu_ ◴[] No.45976726[source]
Is it though? US and EU telecom companies pulled the plug on Huawei products, which were deeply integrated in all of their setup, as soon as someone said they may be spying or remote disabled by China. It was expensive, sure, but they pulled the plug. I don't recall any concrete evidence of backdoors etc to be found, but trust was gone.

And that's the difference I think; US and Israel have high trust, they are aligned in ideals and strategy and the like.

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2. jazzypants ◴[] No.45979495[source]
I don't think it's wise for us to trust a country that has a whole Wikipedia article dedicated to the ways they spy on us.

I hate that I have to say this, but I'm a Jew and I'm not anti-Semitic in any way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_espionage_in_the_Unite...