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earlyriser ◴[] No.45957840[source]
I read champignons and it kind of fit even better. Adderall (Brave New World) and mushrooms (Island).
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brandall10 ◴[] No.45957883[source]
Soma in BNW is more analogous to MDMA as it's about sedated pleasure, not mental clarity/performance.
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ratelimitsteve ◴[] No.45958782[source]
mdma is pleasureful but extremely non-sedated
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Liquix ◴[] No.45958898[source]
pure racemic MDMA has very little stimulant effect. street MDMA can feel stimulating because it is either intentionally mixed with caffeine/speed/meth or contains residual precursor from clandestine synthesis.

my major state was one of deep relaxation ... MDMA does not work like Dexedrine ... I feel totally peaceful.

- Alexander Shulgin, PIHKAL

https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal109...

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1. temp0826 ◴[] No.45961585[source]
Shulgin used dozens (hundreds?) of these compounds. I do wonder if some of his better subjective observations might be due to simply relieving withdrawal symptoms.
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2. ratelimitsteve ◴[] No.45967075[source]
that was certainly the story when I found opioids to be energizing
3. loeg ◴[] No.45967925[source]
Yeah, Shulgin is not really a reliable witness here. He's also a single anecdote.