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tekacs ◴[] No.45951235[source]
This is kinda wonderful to see - a peek into a world where we get to see the 'other side' of what would have been possible had Apple not locked our devices down beyond belief.

Jailbreak stores have never felt like a particularly strong illustration of what's possible due to their tiny user market - I'd love to see what developers would do if even for a period we could use these devices to anything remotely like their potential.

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frfl ◴[] No.45951276[source]
There was a comment few weeks ago - I forget the topic, maybe it was the new M-series release or something - that was talking about how freaking fast these things are. And the comment was pointing out how locked down everything is and most of that power is pretty useless - I mean sure on device "AI" and faster apps...OK I guess. I'm not the target demographic for these things anyway, so my opinions are whatever.

But really, imagine how much power these things have and if you could actually run a free (as in freedom, in the GNU sense) OS on them and really get access to all that power in a handheld device. Only if.

I have an M1, which is like N-times faster than the laptop I write this on. Yet it collects dust because I'd rather continue to use this old dinosaur laptop because that M1 macbook is a locked down, very fast, shiny Ferrari, but I just want a Honda Civic I can do whatever I want with.

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ahmeneeroe-v2 ◴[] No.45956702[source]
I recently sold my 1TB M1 Cellular iPad at a loss and picked up a 2019 Intel MacBook Pro for exactly the same reason.

I don't even need GNU-freedom, regular MacOS is fine. I just can't live with a iPadOS anymore.

edit: you can pry locked down iOS from my cold dead hands. Love it exactly because it's a walled garden.

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c-hendricks ◴[] No.45958292[source]
Having trouble understanding your edit.

Start with a laptop, you believe they should be open.

Remove the keyboard so it's only a screen, you believe they should be opened.

Shrink that screen down, and now they should be locked down?

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monerozcash ◴[] No.45958662[source]
The walled garden is very pleasant, you really have to put in exceptional amounts of effort to get malware on your device.
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1. c-hendricks ◴[] No.45959937[source]
Sure, maybe the person I replied to has that same line of thought.

Why do the same restrictions bother them on a bigger screen is what I'm getting at.

What if the iPhone supported more traditional desktop resolutions when plugged into a display, you'd be staring at a screen with an Apple UI and more desktop/tablet like amounts of screen real estate. What of the walled garden then.

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2. ahmeneeroe-v2 ◴[] No.45961397[source]
Apple's heavy handed vision works for me in the phone format. I've spent my years messing with android ROMs and don't want to go back.

I would love plug-in display type functionality for my phone, but not at the expense of leaving the walled garden.

3. monerozcash ◴[] No.45978054[source]
In my case, I use bigger screen devices with somewhat exotic productivity tools that would not necessarily fit well in the walled garden.

On the other hand, an ultra locked down macbook would sound pretty ideal for day-to-day browsing, handling financial tasks, work communications and so on. Really everything except the software development tasks I work on.

On the other hand, I do almost everything over SSH already. I guess I really could easily live with a completely locked down base MacOS install without any issues. Even Terminal.app isn't too bad anymore.