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Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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baklavaEmperor ◴[17 Nov 25 20:30 UTC] No.45957934[source]▶
What’s striking is how often these ‘small’ surveillance tech stories trace back to the same state-aligned ecosystem. When Israel does it, it’s treated as a complex security issue. When another ‘bad’ country does the same thing, we immediately call it espionage. And almost on cue, the discussion drifts anywhere except the uncomfortable fact that it’s the same ecosystem from the same country showing up again.
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amarcheschi ◴[17 Nov 25 21:38 UTC] No.45958638[source]▶
I mean, it's literally the same thing that happens when past genocides are bad, but when they happen today from an ally of the west... "it's complicated". Except this time happens on the technological side rather than the humanitarian one
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1. like_any_other ◴[17 Nov 25 22:45 UTC] No.45959278[source]▶
> an ally of the west

Remind me again of all the help Israel has provided the USA/the West that they are considered such a great (the greatest, in fact) ally?

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2. whatshisface ◴[18 Nov 25 04:51 UTC] No.45961523[source]▶
Everything on your list involved the sale of a product, by this logic China would be our closest ally (actually I wish our leaders were that sane, but the inconsistency stands...).

I wish people could just state the transparently documented historical truth, Israel is a US ally because Truman and enough other backers wanted to create a state for Holocaust survivors. The leadership and majority of voters in the US have been true believers in Zionism (in one of its many versions) for generations, and supports Israel by essentially the same logic that Israelis support Israel by. This existed as a state of affairs with almost no opposition at any level until a couple years ago when it came into conflict with another basic belief (about being close enough to just in the cause and method of war that most people could somewhat believe it).

3. Cthulhu_ ◴[19 Nov 25 07:20 UTC] No.45976731[source]▶
Heaps of military and intelligence technology, base of operations / bastion in the middle east, etc.