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Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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pbiggar[dead post] ◴[17 Nov 25 17:07 UTC] No.45955566[source]▶
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ashdksnndck ◴[17 Nov 25 19:29 UTC] No.45957205[source]▶
Redis and Elasticsearch were both built by Israelis, and there is also Israeli code in important projects like the Linux kernel. And of course, also Israeli contributions in closed-source tech like CUDA. Avoiding all of that is a pretty tall order. But if you want to impair your systems by purifying them based on national origin of the contributors, have at it.
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pbiggar ◴[17 Nov 25 19:34 UTC] No.45957277[source]▶
In fact Elasticsearch was specifically mentioned as a partner of the "Gaza Humanitarian Foundation", a fake aid org who caused many Palestinians to be killed under their watch. (Elasticsearch denied involvement when I contacted them)

But to be more specific I would narrow it down to avoiding using any tech which Israel could use for surveillance, narrative control, or harm.

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1. ashdksnndck ◴[17 Nov 25 19:42 UTC] No.45957369[source]▶
Opposing a specific organization for engaging in specific acts is a lot less objectionable than discriminating based on national origin.
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2. wahnfrieden ◴[17 Nov 25 20:21 UTC] No.45957828{3}[source]▶
So, not Nelson Mandela. Not even his own children. Why do their voices matter to you?

And since you value their voices, why not his grandson's voice? Or do their voices only matter when they agree with yours? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45958241

3. RobotToaster ◴[17 Nov 25 21:01 UTC] No.45958241{3}[source]▶
His grandson has said it's worse than Apartheid https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/mandelas-grandson-...
4. pbiggar ◴[18 Nov 25 09:00 UTC] No.45962918[source]▶
We're not basing on national origin, we're basing on specific participation in occupation, which is being done by the Israeli state and army.