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srameshc ◴[] No.45946518[source]
So does that mean if Heretic is used for models like Deepseek and Qwen it can talk about subjects 1989 Tiananmen Square protests, Uyghur forced labor claims, or the political status of Taiwan. I am trying to understand the broader goals around such tools.
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kachapopopow ◴[] No.45946598[source]
the models already talk about it just fine if you load them up yourself, only the web api from official deepseek has these issues because they are required to do so by law.
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throwawaymaths ◴[] No.45946732[source]
That is not the case.
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1. kachapopopow ◴[] No.45955400[source]
not sure about all chinese models, but deepseek has absolutely no problem and qwen just avoids anything controvertial including completely unrelated subjects to china such as the lgbtq movement. also any kind of safeguards like those are easily bypassed since there isn't that much effort that was put in to prevent models talking about these subjects which to be sounds like dataset tainting rather than intentional bias.