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RandyOrion ◴[] No.45950598[source]
This repo is valuable for local LLM users like me.

I just want to reiterate that the word "LLM safety" means very different things to large corporations and LLM users.

For large corporations, they often say "do safety alignment to LLMs". What they actually do is to avoid anything that causes damage to their own interests. These things include forcing LLMs to meet some legal requirements, as well as forcing LLMs to output "values, facts, and knowledge" which in favor of themselves, e.g., political views, attitudes towards literal interaction, and distorted facts about organizations and people behind LLMs.

As an average LLM user, what I want is maximum factual knowledge and capabilities from LLMs, which are what these large corporations claimed in the first place. It's very clear that the interests of me, an LLM user, is not aligned with these of large corporations.

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squigz ◴[] No.45950680[source]
> forcing LLMs to output "values, facts, and knowledge" which in favor of themselves, e.g., political views, attitudes towards literal interaction, and distorted facts about organizations and people behind LLMs.

Can you provide some examples?

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dalemhurley ◴[] No.45951429[source]
Song lyrics. Not illegal. I can google them and see them directly on Google. LLMs refuse.
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sigmoid10 ◴[] No.45951647[source]
It actually works the same as on google. As in, ChatGPT will happily give you a link to a site with the lyrics without issue (regardless whether the third party site provider has any rights or not). But in the search/chat itself, you can only see snippets or small sections, not the entire text.
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1. hirako2000 ◴[] No.45953220[source]
1. chatgpt is the publisher, Google is a search engine, links to publishers.

2. LLMs typically don't produce content verbatim. Some LLMs do provide references but it remains a pasta of sentences worded differently.

You are asking for gpt to publish verbatim content which may be copyrighted, it would be deemed infringement since non verbatim is already crossing the line.

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2. sigmoid10 ◴[] No.46002104[source]
Noone said it couldn't do that. In fact ChatGPT can do both. They just limit the direct content recital, because it is a weird area for copyright and Google also got burned for this already in some countries.