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Where do the children play?

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Earw0rm ◴[] No.45952503[source]
It's cars. It was always cars.
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1. api ◴[] No.45952557[source]
Plenty of cars in the 90s and we played outside all day.

The biggest change since then is two things.

One is that there’s way more to do inside now, mostly games and shows.

The second is that baseless kidnapping panics convinced society that children can never be unattended. The main vector was daytime TV and now true crime podcasts. The reality is that kidnapping is statistically extremely rare and more than 95% of all child sexual or other abuse is perpetrated by someone the child knows. Most kidnappings are also by someone the child knows.

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2. throwawayffffas ◴[] No.45952759[source]
While I mostly agree with you, cars then and cars now in the US are not the same.

The typical car back then was a 5 door sedan, think ford crown, Chevrolet lumina, etc. These days almost everyone is driving pretty much a light truck.

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3. mlrtime ◴[] No.45952791[source]
I'll give you a hint about statistics... there will always be a #1 killer of children. Today it's car accidents, 100 years ago it was disease. After disease it was other accidents, and 100 years from now it will be something else.
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4. bean469 ◴[] No.45952904[source]
Totally unrelated, but awesome username!
5. throwawayffffas ◴[] No.45953003{3}[source]
Listen I agree with both you and the poster I replied to. What I am saying is that the risk from cars really did increase. Not that it's the only reason that the change happened.
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6. Earw0rm ◴[] No.45953190[source]
We did, but some kids got killed or badly injured as a result. It was pretty common where I live.

And while speeds are a bit lower now, the median driver attitude and aggression level seems to be a lot worse. I'm not sure whether that's because of phone distractions, or they're stressed out by exploitative employers, or have cooked their brains online, or some demographic change in who does the most driving, but when I'm on foot, being driven AT is not an uncommon experience at all.

7. sidewndr46 ◴[] No.45960031{4}[source]
I don't think you ever saw the cars my grandmother drove when my dad was a kid. It was not a "light truck" or anything of the type. It was a 'car' and it was actually bigger, by quite a large margin.
8. SoftTalker ◴[] No.45961604[source]
> Plenty of cars in the 90s and we played outside all day.

Same in the 1970s/1980s. I grew up in a suburb-type neighborhood. Needed a car to go to work or to do any shopping or go basically anywhere. Rode a bus to school. The idea that car-centric development is a relatively new phenomenon is just wrong. It's been happening since the 1950s. We still played outside. We had TV but like 6 channels and nothing very interesting for a kid most of the time. Now we have ubiquitous computers and phones, and the sociopathic tech companies, which have really been just terrible for everyone except their investors.

9. SoftTalker ◴[] No.45961647[source]
You may not remember the "land yacht" sedans, or the gargantuan station wagons, which were common family cars back in the day. Longer, wider, and heavier than any modern SUV, crossover, or minivan.