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    The internet is no longer a safe haven

    (brainbaking.com)
    253 points akyuu | 12 comments | 16 Nov 25 13:12 UTC | HN request time: 0.195s | source | bottom
    1. mberning ◴[16 Nov 25 15:23 UTC] No.45945761[source]▶
    the internet is over. If we want to recapture the magic of the earlier times we are going to have to invent something new.
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    2. fithisux ◴[16 Nov 25 15:36 UTC] No.45945853[source]▶
    going back to Gopher?
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    3. itintheory ◴[16 Nov 25 15:47 UTC] No.45945925[source]▶
    Gopher still requires the Internet. I know it's pretty common to conflate "the Internet" with "the World Wide Web", but there are actually other protocols out there (like Gopher).
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    4. pixl97 ◴[16 Nov 25 15:52 UTC] No.45945975[source]▶
    There is no something new. Anything we invent will be able to be taken over by complex bots. Welcome to the futureshock where humans aren't at the top of their domain.
    5. 9rx ◴[16 Nov 25 15:55 UTC] No.45945994[source]▶
    The magical times in the past have always been marked with being able to be part of an "exclusive club" that takes something from nothing to changing the world.

    Because of the internet, magical times can never be had again. You can invent something new, but as soon as anyone finds out about it, everyone now finds out about it. The "exclusive club" period is no more.

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    6. fithisux ◴[16 Nov 25 15:55 UTC] No.45945995{3}[source]▶
    I don't see a solution then.
    7. groundzeros2015 ◴[16 Nov 25 15:59 UTC] No.45946029[source]▶
    Why would that help?
    8. willis936 ◴[16 Nov 25 16:09 UTC] No.45946121[source]▶
    Third spaces and the free time to explore them?

    No no, that doesn't maximize shareholder value.

    9. martin-t ◴[16 Nov 25 16:35 UTC] No.45946351[source]▶
    > magical times can never be had again

    Yes, they can. But we need to admit to ourselves that people are not equal. Not just in terms of skill but in terms of morality and quality of character. And that some people are best kept out.

    Corporations, being amoral, should also be kept out.

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    The old internet was the way it was because of gate keeping - the people on it were selected through technical skill being required. Generally people who are builder types are more pro-social than redistributor types.

    Any time I've been in a community which felt good, it was full of people who enjoyed building stuff.

    Any time such a community died, it was because people who crave power and status took it over.

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    10. renewiltord ◴[16 Nov 25 17:08 UTC] No.45946599[source]▶
    Haha, you could host on Gemini instead of HTTP. You’d simulate the old internet in that only enthusiasts would come!
    11. dw_arthur ◴[16 Nov 25 21:27 UTC] No.45948558{3}[source]▶
    Gatekeeping and exclusion are going to have to make a comeback if we want to have a thriving culture again. Sometimes people need to be told their art, taste, or morals are lacking.
    12. basscomm ◴[16 Nov 25 22:16 UTC] No.45948945[source]▶
    There's already an Interet2; do we need to invent Internet3?