Maybe the long-term solution for such attacks is to hide most of the internet behind some kind of Proof of Work system/network, so that mostly humans get to access to our websites, not machines.
Maybe the long-term solution for such attacks is to hide most of the internet behind some kind of Proof of Work system/network, so that mostly humans get to access to our websites, not machines.
The web is really stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to this. Proof of work helps website owners, but makes life harder for all discovery tools and search engines.
An independent standard for request signing and building some sort of reputation database for verified crawlers could be part of a solution, though that causes problems with websites feeding crawlers different content than users, an does nothing to fix the Sybil attack problem.
I don't think you need world-wide law-enforcement, it'll be a big step ahead if you make owners & operators liable. You can limit exposure so nobody gets absolutely ruined, but anyone running wordpress 4.2 and getting their VPS abused for attacks currently has 0 incentive to change anything unless their website goes down. Give them a penalty of a few hundred dollars and suddenly they do. To keep things simple, collect from the hosters, they can then charge their customers, and suddenly they'll be interested in it as well, because they don't want to deal with that.
The criminals are not held liable, and neither are their enablers. There's very little chance anything will change that way.
International law enforcement on the Internet would also subject you to the laws of other countries. It goes both ways.
Having to comply with all of the speech laws and restrictions in other countries is not actually something you want.
Maybe pseudo-anonymity and “punishment” via reputation could work. Then an oppressive government with access to a subversive website (ignoring bad security, coordination with other hijacked sites, etc.) can only poison its clients’ reputations, and (if reputation is tied to sites, who have their own reputations) only temporarily.
You're absolutely right: AWS, GCP, Azure and others, they do not care and especially AWS and GCP are massive enablers.
Already happens. Oppressive governments already punish people for visiting "wrong" websites. They already censor internet.
There are no technological solutions to coordination problems. Ultimately, no matter what you invent, it's politics that will decide how it's used and by whom.
If you want to trade with me, a country that exports software, let's agree to both criminalize software piracy.
No reason why this can't be extended to DDoS attacks.
You're not wrong that abuse would be a massive issue, but I'm on the other side of this and need Amazon to do something, anything.
It really can not be overstated how unsustainable the status quo is.
BitTorrent is just as susceptible to this, it's just there's currently no economic incentive to try to exhaustively scrape it from 50,000 VPS nodes.
No, it really isn't. Unless you mean like on the BGP level. But it's p2p in the sense where you have to trust every party not to break the system. It's like email or mastodon, it doesn't solve the fundamental sybil problem at hand.
>BitTorrent is just as susceptible to this,
In bittorrent things are hosted by adhoc users are that are roughly proportional to the number of downloaders. It is not unimaginable that you could staple a reputation system on top of it like PTs already do.