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ugh123 ◴[] No.45909860[source]
>my dad is dead, because his family members were too naive to know that the thing they were instructed to do by the state was a false thing.

We're told a lot of things by "officials" not because it's correct, but because it holds the least legal liability for official parties involved, especially anything involving healthcare. These officials also sometimes include doctors, who work to protect themselves and the system first, and then patients.

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vkou ◴[] No.45909909[source]
We're also told to do a lot of things by officials because it's correct most of the time, but with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, generally correct advice can turn out to be dead wrong for you.

Sometimes doing what you're told is the right thing. Sometimes, not doing what you're told is the right thing. Sometimes, you're told to do the intuitive thing, and it's wrong. Sometimes, you're told to do the unintuitive thing, and it's wrong. It's hard to tell the difference between those situations, even when you're not stressed.

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userbinator ◴[] No.45910030[source]
Perhaps 2020 hindsight, even.
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vkou ◴[] No.45910242[source]
The 2020, in hindsight was largely correct. COVID was a highly infectious disease, it put a lot of people in the hospital, and a lot of people in the morgue. Social distancing and wearing masks slowed its spread, until an effective, safe vaccine was developed. Horse paste was not a cure for it, and after further investigation it turns out that it only had a positive effect on patients who, in addition to having COVID, also had worms. (To the surprise of absolutely everyone, it turned out that giving de-wormer to people with worms improved their health.)

For some reason, chronic contrarians always to point at a few details that were gotten wrong during the fog of war, and shout from the rooftops that if only they were in charge, we'd all be living in castles made of candy and shitting rainbows.

Joke's on us, though, those contrarians have since made a moron who doesn't believe in germs... The Secretary of Health.

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1. mlyle ◴[] No.45911160{3}[source]
The SF Bay Area response was spot on ... in the beginning.

Then there were aspects that we had pretty quickly figured out made no sense (no hiking by yourself, no leaving to do solitary things). Worse, they were broadly ignored by most people-- I was worried I'd get busted in a parking lot with my telescope when I knew people who were having dinner parties.

Then the very strict orders continued well after the containment was ineffective and the rest of the country had, to some extent, eased up. A couple of weeks to flatten the curve became "wait until there's a vaccine" which is not what we'd all signed up for, and unnecessarily restrictive even for these purposes.

It would have been better to pick a "set point" for policy that could have been actually upheld, rather than setting a very strict policy that was often ignored and then enforced arbitrarily.