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ugh123 ◴[] No.45909860[source]
>my dad is dead, because his family members were too naive to know that the thing they were instructed to do by the state was a false thing.

We're told a lot of things by "officials" not because it's correct, but because it holds the least legal liability for official parties involved, especially anything involving healthcare. These officials also sometimes include doctors, who work to protect themselves and the system first, and then patients.

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vkou ◴[] No.45909909[source]
We're also told to do a lot of things by officials because it's correct most of the time, but with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, generally correct advice can turn out to be dead wrong for you.

Sometimes doing what you're told is the right thing. Sometimes, not doing what you're told is the right thing. Sometimes, you're told to do the intuitive thing, and it's wrong. Sometimes, you're told to do the unintuitive thing, and it's wrong. It's hard to tell the difference between those situations, even when you're not stressed.

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userbinator ◴[] No.45910030[source]
Perhaps 2020 hindsight, even.
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vkou ◴[] No.45910242[source]
The 2020, in hindsight was largely correct. COVID was a highly infectious disease, it put a lot of people in the hospital, and a lot of people in the morgue. Social distancing and wearing masks slowed its spread, until an effective, safe vaccine was developed. Horse paste was not a cure for it, and after further investigation it turns out that it only had a positive effect on patients who, in addition to having COVID, also had worms. (To the surprise of absolutely everyone, it turned out that giving de-wormer to people with worms improved their health.)

For some reason, chronic contrarians always to point at a few details that were gotten wrong during the fog of war, and shout from the rooftops that if only they were in charge, we'd all be living in castles made of candy and shitting rainbows.

Joke's on us, though, those contrarians have since made a moron who doesn't believe in germs... The Secretary of Health.

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1. ryanjshaw ◴[] No.45910708{3}[source]
> few details that were gotten wrong during the fog of war

It’s fine to have your opinion but don’t dismiss others’ experiences and values.

The extreme lockdowns caused irreparable, long-term harm to many people. You’re glossing over this as if it’s a minor error that anybody could’ve made, which is not correct.

It is essentially a trolley problem. You value “extreme intervention that is statistically better overall but unnecessarily devastating to some”, whereas many other people are happy to let nature run its course to some extent than have their government turn against them “for the needs of the many”.

That is a moral discussion, not a scientific one, and people are rightfully angry when it’s misrepresented as purely a scientific one.