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stinkbeetle ◴[] No.45910175[source]
> my dad is dead, because his family members were too naive to know that the thing they were instructed to do by the state was a false thing.

The primary goal of the state is to ensure the power of the state is perpetuated. It's really the only goal of the state, anything it does good for its people is a side effect in its pursuit of maintaining power.

The government doesn't care about you, doesn't care about your health, your children's education, your safety, your house, your job, anything else about you except in as far as they provide conditions for people sufficient to avoid large scale civil unrest and threat of government losing authority. If individuals get crushed in the machine, nobody gives a shit, least of all the government.

This is the reason vigilantism is viewed so harshly by the state and tends to attract much more attention and harsher punishment than a crime that was not motivated by justice. Not because the outcome for a victim of vigilantism is any different, but because the act threatens to undermine the authority of the state in application of justice.

The biggest perpetrators of atrocities and injustice, war, murder, theft, genocide, death and suffering through negligence and incompetence, has been the state and agents of the state. Everybody should be critical of everything the government, politicians, bureaucrats, "experts" tell you at all times. Consider they can and do lie and cover-up as easily as a person drinks water, consider motivations, and explore outcomes and alternatives and consider what is best for you, your family, your community, your society. Use your common sense, don't prejudice your ideas with what gets repeated about things. Develop plans accordingly, or at least spend a little time to think about these things.

This is not "conspiratorial". The actual conspiracy theory would that those in government are conspiring to actually help the people foremost. Anybody who puts forward that kind of crazed unfounded conspiracy theory had better come up with air-tight evidence, otherwise they'd just be peddling far-something ultra-something disinformation.

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1. roncesvalles ◴[] No.45910610[source]
>The primary goal of the state is to ensure the power of the state is perpetuated.

Well, that makes sense considering failure of the state is a very, very bad situation.

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2. stinkbeetle ◴[] No.45911341[source]
That's not why it makes sense. And it's not even true, the failure of Pol Pot's communist state was best for the greater good, the failure of the Nazi state was a good thing. The failure of the Islamic State was great too (not always necessarily true for everybody who have hitched their wagons or bet their fortune on the success of the state of course, but for most people).

Whether the success or failure of the state is good or bad for people is irrelevant to the goal of the state, as I said. You can and do have states that are better or worse for the people, all share the goal of the perpetuation of the power of the state.