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ugh123 ◴[] No.45909860[source]
>my dad is dead, because his family members were too naive to know that the thing they were instructed to do by the state was a false thing.

We're told a lot of things by "officials" not because it's correct, but because it holds the least legal liability for official parties involved, especially anything involving healthcare. These officials also sometimes include doctors, who work to protect themselves and the system first, and then patients.

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energy123 ◴[] No.45909988[source]
Incompetence and laziness among doctors is a big cause. As a professional you've probably worked with many colleagues you thought were bad. Well there are doctors like that too. Many of them. And unlike in tech, they don't get let go if they're bad. They stay around and keep "treating" patients.
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photon_lines ◴[] No.45910068[source]
This is 100% true, especially in Canada. I've had multiple encounters with doctors who were not fit for their positions and should not have been working as doctors. One of them nearly killed my mom, and another one was suspended due to malpractice and performing research fraud, but was given her license back and is back to work at the moment. Yes she is fully licensed and back to working as a regular MD in Canada: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Jamal
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bonsai_spool ◴[] No.45910150[source]
> One of them nearly killed my mom, and another one was suspended due to malpractice and performing research fraud, but was given her license back

How does alleged research fraud affect someone’s ability to be a caregiver?

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photon_lines ◴[] No.45910190[source]
She blamed the research fraud on her assistant when she was initially accused of it and denied all liabilities. She only admitted to it after they had her cornered. I had her as my endocrinologist for a while and I would not recommend her. Edit: if you want to have a care-taker who doesn't mind lying or is a psychopath, you do you but it's a no go for me.
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bonsai_spool ◴[] No.45910443[source]
> if you want to have a care-taker who doesn't mind lying or is a psychopath, you do you but it's a no go for me.

We've gone from accused of research fraud to psychopath.

My original point is that I don't see how the effort to produce new knowledge has any bearing on the appropriate management of diabetes/thyroid hormone.

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1. blobbers ◴[] No.45910543{4}[source]
Her behavior is completely psychopathic.

It has to do with the integrity and willingness of someone to tell the truth; if she's willing to destroy evidence to avoid criticism, what other types of mistakes is she willing to cover up when dealing with a patient?

This seems pretty obvious, how are you not understanding this? It isn't her effort to produce new knowledge, its her willingness to lie in the face of failure.

If a patient of hers dies or starts to decline, she could falsify cause. The list goes on. She is so far on the slippery slope that it is dangerous for her to care for anyone.

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2. bonsai_spool ◴[] No.45910755[source]
> if she's willing to destroy evidence to avoid criticism, > ts her willingness to lie in the face of failure.

This was not presented in the original post. My question was, why is alleged research misconduct a disqualification?

Also a panel of this person's peers decided she merited reinstatement.

> If a patient of hers dies or starts to decline, she could falsify cause.

Not something that is happening in outpatient endocrinology.

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3. blobbers ◴[] No.45911229[source]
There's plenty of chances for misdiagnosis in outpatient endocrinology. If she misses or delays a thyroid cancer diagnosis, or doesn't follow up with a patient at risk, etc, and then lies to cover it up.

I answered your question clearly: research misconduct and her reasoning for it indicates a willingness to lie that should not be allowed in a high trust field such as medicine. She has been banned from receiving Canadian federal funding for life. Her medical license was reinstated but it was a split vote (3-2) and widely criticized, but she is banned from conducting research and has to be monitored by a therapist.

I get that you like to argue, but you should probably learn to admit when you're wrong.