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captainkrtek ◴[] No.45909911[source]
My condolences, very sorry for your loss.

I work as an EMT (911) and resourcing is certainly a problem. In my small city, our response time is around 5 minutes, and if we need to upgrade to get paramedics, that’s maybe another 5-10.

However, if we are out on a call, out of service, or the neighboring city is on a call, now the next closest unit is 15+ minutes away.. sometimes there can just be bad luck in that nearby units are already out on multiple calls that came in around the same time, making the next closest response much further.

for a heart attack or unstable angina, the most an EMT will do (for our protocols) is recognize the likely heart attack, call for paramedics to perform an EKG to confirm the MI, administer 4 baby aspirin to be chewed and/or nitro (rx only), and monitor closely in case it becomes a cardiac arrest. If medics are far away we will probably head immediately to a hospital with a catheterization lab, or rendezvous with medics for them to takeover transport.

The few goals though:

- recognition (it could also be something equally bad/worse like an aortic aneurysm).

- aspirin to break any clots, assist administering nitro if prescribed.

- getting to a cath lab.

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amluto ◴[] No.45910212[source]
Does this mean that someone having a likely heart attack should have someone drive them to an ER in advance of paramedics arriving?
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1. captainkrtek ◴[] No.45910266[source]
I’d say no if it were my family, and I know the response times in my area, but the story in the blog is a nightmare scenario.

People can go from heart attack to cardiac arrest quickly, and you don’t want to then tell medics you’re on the freeway and now need to do CPR.

See: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mxUqHwHbNtk&t=1520s

Around the 11 minute mark this man went into cardiac arrest, a moment prior was still talking.