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Fighting the New York Times' invasion of user privacy

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300 points meetpateltech | 1 comments | 12 Nov 25 14:08 UTC | HN request time: 0.207s | source
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wkat4242 ◴[12 Nov 25 18:06 UTC] No.45903497[source]▶
If OpenAI hadn't used data from the NYT without permission in the first place this wouldn't have happened. That is the root cause of all this.

I'm glad the NYT is fighting them. They've infringed the rights of almost every news outlet but someone has to bring this case.

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scotty79 ◴[12 Nov 25 19:21 UTC] No.45904870[source]▶
NYT on the internet is pure garbage. I'm really sad that when they challenged Google they didn't just drop and ban them from the index. There's zero reason for NYT to pollute the internet for me and everyone like me that won't ever pay them a cent.

NYT links leading to a paywall are the worst kind of spam.

They should sell their stuff by mail if they hate open culture so much.

It's absolutely disgusting how they are allowed to freeload on the attention that the open culture provides, contributing nothing but short garbage blurbs that are worse than generated by LLMs.

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bitpush ◴[12 Nov 25 21:03 UTC] No.45906649[source]▶
> They should sell their stuff by mail if they hate open culture so much.

Does open culture mean free? Are you willing to work for free? It is perfectly OK to sell goods in exchange for money, which is what NYT is doing.

I dont know why you're so upset with it. You cant walk into Apple Store and except to walk away with a free iPhone. Then why are you expecting to "walk" into nytimes' website and walk away with free article?

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1. pembrook ◴[13 Nov 25 01:04 UTC] No.45909153[source]▶
The problem isn't that a news site is monetizing with a paywall. Totally fine, monetize how you want!

The problem is that prominent news orgs have lobbied governments all over the world to threaten google, apple, etc. for preferential treatment so these paywalled articles get prominent placement in various feeds and carousels and recommendation algos.

As a small publisher you'll never get this same preferential treatment if you throw up a paywall.

Creating the bizarre situation where big tech platforms feel they have to recommend paywalled articles from NYT/Bloomberg/etc, catfishing users right into a paywall when they click on headlines. This is essentially spam.