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wkat4242 ◴[] No.45903497[source]
If OpenAI hadn't used data from the NYT without permission in the first place this wouldn't have happened. That is the root cause of all this.

I'm glad the NYT is fighting them. They've infringed the rights of almost every news outlet but someone has to bring this case.

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scotty79 ◴[] No.45904870[source]
NYT on the internet is pure garbage. I'm really sad that when they challenged Google they didn't just drop and ban them from the index. There's zero reason for NYT to pollute the internet for me and everyone like me that won't ever pay them a cent.

NYT links leading to a paywall are the worst kind of spam.

They should sell their stuff by mail if they hate open culture so much.

It's absolutely disgusting how they are allowed to freeload on the attention that the open culture provides, contributing nothing but short garbage blurbs that are worse than generated by LLMs.

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bitpush ◴[] No.45906649[source]
> They should sell their stuff by mail if they hate open culture so much.

Does open culture mean free? Are you willing to work for free? It is perfectly OK to sell goods in exchange for money, which is what NYT is doing.

I dont know why you're so upset with it. You cant walk into Apple Store and except to walk away with a free iPhone. Then why are you expecting to "walk" into nytimes' website and walk away with free article?

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1. scotty79 ◴[] No.45908606[source]
Open means open. Plenty of people make money in the open culture in way less obnoxious ways than NYT. What NYT does is crapping at the place where I am, but building a wall and charging for passage to a place that does stink little bit less. I don't mind them having such place, or even charging for access. What I mind is making mine actively worse. Do whatever you want and charge however much you want. But for the love of God don't advertise in my face using free space that I inhabit. My attention costs way more than your content. Don't be surprised that when you do I will disregard completely your wishful thinking about payment.

What I need is one checkbox in Google ecosystem (and/or my browser) that says "Never show links to paywalled content". Give me that and all my beef with NYT and similar garbage factories is gone in a blink of an eye.