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    Maestro Technology Sells Used SSD Drives as New

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    149 points walterbell | 11 comments | 12 Nov 25 18:29 UTC | HN request time: 0.211s | source | bottom
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    LeifCarrotson ◴[12 Nov 25 18:44 UTC] No.45904120[source]▶
    It's crazy to me that rsync.net is buying mission-critical enterprise drives on Amazon.

    I don't buy drives on Amazon for my 9 year old's laptop because of the rampant fraud and counterfeiting, I'm shocked that they're trusted for any business use-cases by anyone moderately savvy. I'm even more shocked that the takeaway is to blame the individual seller, rather than the marketplace that makes it possible.

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    1. epistasis ◴[12 Nov 25 18:50 UTC] No.45904243[source]▶
    First two lines of the article:

    >At rsync.net we have trusted suppliers with verified supply chains and a long history of providing reliable service.

    >However, from time to time, it is expedient to purchase parts from Amazon - something we do with care and suspicion.

    That seems like a very reasonable and non-crazy approach to using Amazon.

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    2. greenavocado ◴[12 Nov 25 18:53 UTC] No.45904278[source]▶
    As I pointed out in another post if you are using ZFS RAID Z2 you can use literal used garbage hard drives safely without risking data loss.

    ZFS helped me discover that my motherboard SATA chip can't handle 6 drives; I had to purchase a cheap Chinese PCI Express SATA controller to communicate with my drives reliably and error-free.

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    3. dsr_ ◴[12 Nov 25 18:54 UTC] No.45904300[source]▶
    Not for special VDEVs, which is the explicit purpose here.
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    5. nubinetwork ◴[12 Nov 25 19:05 UTC] No.45904549{3}[source]▶
    You can mirror a slog... l2arc doesn't need a mirror because the data is already on disk. I believe a split metadata can also be mirrored.
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    6. 2OEH8eoCRo0 ◴[12 Nov 25 19:12 UTC] No.45904689[source]▶
    I'd be more worried about a supply chain attack with malicious devices.
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    7. 0x1ch ◴[12 Nov 25 19:28 UTC] No.45905009[source]▶
    This is how we operate at my job. We go through our trusted and reliable vendor, who gets us good pricing but doesn't always control shipping times. If it's urgent, Amazon will be delivered within 48 hrs.
    8. favorited ◴[12 Nov 25 19:46 UTC] No.45905345{4}[source]▶
    That's correct. I ran a special metadata VDEV 3-way mirror using this NVMe PLX card for a while https://imgur.com/a/xiwzkA6
    9. stavros ◴[12 Nov 25 19:55 UTC] No.45905479{3}[source]▶
    What kind of supply chain attack can one mount with a disk?
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    10. 2OEH8eoCRo0 ◴[12 Nov 25 21:00 UTC] No.45906593{4}[source]▶
    A malicious device plugged into your machine? The only limit is your imagination.
    11. seany ◴[12 Nov 25 21:32 UTC] No.45907045{4}[source]▶
    You can dump any vdev you want in a special. I have 2x 3 way mirrors in both of my nas boxes right now