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489 points runesoerensen | 5 comments | 11 Nov 25 15:44 UTC | HN request time: 0.002s | source
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jitbit ◴[11 Nov 25 15:48 UTC] No.45888669[source]▶
For us, every .NET upgrade since .NET 5 has gone surprisingly smoothly and reduced CPU/RAM usage by 10–15%.

We were even able to downgrade our cloud servers to smaller instances, literally.

I wish .NET was more popular among startups, if only C# could get rid of the "enterpisey" stigma.

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masfoobar ◴[12 Nov 25 12:16 UTC] No.45899235[source]▶
I think the "confusing" aspect with C#, being part of the Microsoft eco-system, is that there are many smaller companies (and startups) that may have concern paying for such tools.

To the uneducated, C# is linked to Visual Studio.. the IDE.. and the Community edition if free as long as you are a student, open-source, and individuals. Professional and Enterprise are paid.

(Yes - there is Visual Studio Code)

Again, I am looking at this from the uneducated. With the above, as well as "going with other Microsoft products" things start to get more expensive. Need a database - should it be SQL Server? Should it be Windows Servers? etc.

Because of the above, I would not be surprised if Go is more popular especially for startups... alongside Linux, MySQL/Postgres, as well as other IDE or text editors. Sure.. I might agree that Visual Studio Code is suited for various programmers today.

Not suggesting you are wrong in any way. It's just the amount of money spent on Windows/Microsoft for small companies is rather large, compared to other alternatives that are just as good.

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1. CharlieDigital ◴[12 Nov 25 12:23 UTC] No.45899296[source]▶

    > It's just the amount of money spent on Windows/Microsoft for small companies is rather large, compared to other alternatives that are just as good.
This is a complete mis-perception about the modern ecosystem.

We have a full team using C# at a series-C, YC startup with every developer on Macs (some on Beelinks and Linux). The team is using a mix of VS Code, Cursor, and Rider. We deploy to Linux container instances in GKE on Google Cloud running Postgres.

There is no more tie in to Microsoft licensing than there is say for TypeScript. Yes, C# DevKit is licensed like VS, but if you don't need the features, then you can also use DotRush or just use the free C# Extension.

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2. martinald ◴[12 Nov 25 12:36 UTC] No.45899403[source]▶
Totally agree.

Ironically dotnet runs better on Linux/Mac systems in my experience. All our devs who use Windows for dotnet dev now use WSL2 as it matches production. We don't use any other 'commercial' Microsoft products like SQL Server or Azure. All postgres/redis/etc and deploy onto docker containers.

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3. masfoobar ◴[12 Nov 25 14:31 UTC] No.45900672[source]▶
My last comment, which you referenced... focused not just on C# or .NET.. but the focus of "you need Microsoft" in general.. this includes Windows, SQL Server, etc.

Again, my comment is focusing on someone on the outside looking in.. and WHY people end up making decisions away from C# in favour of (something like) Go.

I am aware of deploying to Linux containers, etc.

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4. masfoobar ◴[12 Nov 25 14:46 UTC] No.45900878[source]▶
> Ironically dotnet runs better on Linux/Mac systems in my experience. All our devs who use Windows for dotnet dev now use WSL2 as it matches production. We don't use any other 'commercial' Microsoft products like SQL Server or Azure. All postgres/redis/etc and deploy onto docker containers.

I am pushing for Linux containers in the workplace... away from Windows, IIS, etc. I totally agree with you 100%. I'm also trying to push us away from SQL Server where possible.

5. CharlieDigital ◴[12 Nov 25 15:26 UTC] No.45901351[source]▶
Yes, I am very aware of this and have spent a lot of time/effort trying to dispel some of these myths and mis-understandings through writing.

- TypeScript is like C#: https://typescript-is-like-csharp.chrlschn.dev/

- 6 .NET Myths Dispelled: https://medium.com/dev-genius/6-net-myths-dispelled-celebrat...

- The Case for C# and .NET: https://itnext.io/the-case-for-c-and-net-72ee933da304